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| 30 Sep 2013 07:06 PM |
| It would be more accurate to refer to the "Christian God" as the Abrahamic God because Jews, Christians, and Muslims believe the same God |
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| 30 Sep 2013 07:07 PM |
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| 30 Sep 2013 07:11 PM |
@emily, worked out well for the Soviet Union didn't it?
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| 30 Sep 2013 07:14 PM |
| There's a difference between a secular nation (USA) and an atheist nation (Soviet Union) |
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| 30 Sep 2013 07:15 PM |
"innocent"
um im pretty sure most of them got killed for immoral acts but ok |
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| 30 Sep 2013 07:15 PM |
Actually, God in the Old Testament simply took extreme precautions for an extreme culture. He always knew what was best.
In the NT, Jesus represents a perfect, sinless sacrifice, which wiped all sin from humanity's hearts. |
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| 30 Sep 2013 07:16 PM |
@Web, yes because the US killed far people than the Soviet Union.
Also Web, everything you pointed out can be easily flawed by opening the bible and reading it fully. There are many ways for the bible to be taken thus creating many different ideas and beliefs.
I'm an ex Atheist, I understand what you are trying to say and I too thought that until I started looking into it.
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| 30 Sep 2013 07:17 PM |
@Scar
What caused the change of heart? |
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| 30 Sep 2013 07:18 PM |
| religious religious stuff flame war religious |
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| 30 Sep 2013 07:20 PM |
| That's only part of the verse. That was a documentation of the fall of Jerusalem and the revenge that happened after it |
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| 30 Sep 2013 07:20 PM |
"1. There are plenty of other religions."
So? It's an option. People choose god.
"2. There's no specific reason to choose the Christian god over any of the other gods. "
It's an option. Just because there's more doesn't make it worse.
"3. God in the Old Testament is extremely cruel and kills thousands of innocent people."
Alright. I dunno what to say.
"4. God of the New Testament is illogical, sending himself to save us from a punishment that he created himself. "
Wasn't that of Jesus's doing?
"5. He tortures people infinitely for a finite lifetime."
That's 666.
"6. He favors the free will of the criminals over the free will of the victim of the crime. "
He gave free will. That's all. He doesn't like people who abuse it. Alright? |
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| 30 Sep 2013 07:21 PM |
| Theres no proof that gods even real for all we know some guy could have just sat down and started writing the bible for a joke |
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| 30 Sep 2013 07:27 PM |
@Wisdom, the more I looked into atheism and begin to understand it, the other things they've accused creationism for, they can be accused as well.
@Web
"Again, you're just asserting things are true without any reasoning. I can easily say, "If you actually read a science textbook you would realize you're wrong." That's not really a rebuttal."
I have read a textbook about this before and I understood it completely, it does make since until you strip it down to the bone as you are doing with the bible.
"I hardly believe that."
I was praying for days before my father passed away and he died anyways, I prayed afterwards and then a week later my best friend ended up dying. I got no signs or anything then changed to an atheist that was very angry with the idea that a creator that is supposed to be helpful didn't help me. Don't try to judge my personal life saying I wasn't one because I've slammed many Christians in the past for my beliefs.
"You never looked into it once. Or else you would have an actual argument and not just assertions."
Again you avoided what I completely said.
@Black
"Theres no proof that gods even real for all we know some guy could have just sat down and started writing the bible for a joke"
Possibility, but I try to respect people's beliefs.
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| 30 Sep 2013 07:29 PM |
@Black
Um...The Bible was written by sixteen different people (around that number) over a course of six thousand years, and yet has no contradictions, and only supports the other books, as well as accurately portray or predict world events that had yet to happen. That's, without a doubt, superhuman. |
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| 30 Sep 2013 07:37 PM |
"Now you're just being blatantly dishonest. I have called you out on making assertions without explanation, and you are only continuing to avoid explaining your point, and just keep on asserting it."
I have as much proof as you do when it came down to it, you are reversing the idea on what I'm saying is what you are saying yet you are trying to disprove it. I can easily say the same that you probably haven't read all the religions in the universe's beliefs.
"Are you just trolling me now? No one is this stupid."
I said something, you took a shot at it and missed it proving nothing but a thought towards it.
"All you're doing is making assertions and dishonestly avoiding providing reasoning for this. I pointed it out, and you do it several more times. You are aware of it, and are being dishonest. That's extremely childish and I will not have it.
If you can't be honest, then I'm not going to "debate" you."
You are welcome to walk away and not debate. I'm trying to be mature here and debate with you as it seems that is what you want due to you posting something like this on the ROBLOX forums.
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