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TheUltimation is not online. TheUltimation
Joined: 24 Sep 2011
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22 Sep 2013 12:23 PM
Before you read this, please note two things. This will be a relatively long read. If you wish to skip the mass amounts of reading, note that there is a "tl;dr" version at the bottom for you to read. Second, everything I state in this post is purely based on facts, backed up by evidence.

So, there is much controversy and arguing involving DarkRider0979 and myself, revolving around the state of IE. Here is where I will enlighten the facts about IE, for you.

First of all, please consider two things.
One, I received IE in a dead state. The second I gained leadership of IE, I brought up an activity check, in which one person responded to. If you were to observe IE now, you'd see that our progress has greatly improved.
Two, I cannot play ROBLOX Games on my home computer. At some point, that will change. But for now, I depend on my high ranks to host events and keep high spirits in the group while I struggle to gain regular ROBLOX access. Despite this, I do occasionally use my friend's computer, who is generous enough to help me to the best of my ability, as well as computers at my local library.

That being said, I believe that IE has progressed a significant amount since it's dead state approximately a month and a half ago. Soon, however, I will be getting a new computer, and will be able to play ROBLOX Games regularly, which will also benefit IE to the fullest.

Now, here is where the argumentative content is addressed.

"IE was better under DarkRider!
"But DarkRider is a terrible leader!"
"TheUltimation is a terrible leader!"

Anything related to the three quotes above is all opinion-based, and I'm sure DarkRider and myself do our best to ignore random outbursts such as that.

"DarkRider could get 40+ to training sessions!"

Perhaps that is true. But if you read up, you will recall that I received the group when it was dead. Nothing could happen, which is when I started mass-recruiting and everything I could to boost activity. And whom, you ask, is responsible for IE's dead state? DarkRider himself.

Why? DarkRider gave up on IE. He was in no position to lead it himself. Now, i'm unsure why he gave up, but I know that it was a poor decision on his, and IE's, behalf. So, after he retired from leadership, the group was passed to (If I'm correct) AncientStone, who then passed it to Woot3, who would soon be the killer of IE. Now, if DarkRider were to never give up on IE, then it would have never died.

I was bestowed with the burden of the dead superclan, following Woot3's era. That being said, I started off by acquiring assets and important aspects for the clan. I brought back the old uniforms, I acquired a base (generously donated by greenawesome99, and edited by myself and friends). I received all-around support, but also negativity, which I used to get better.

From then on, IE had its ups, as well as its downs. I spent hundreds of thousands of tickets on advertising, which did indeed bring in new and active members. That ALSO being said, DarkRider has told me that that vast majority of IE's members are loyal to him. And here's why that's wrong:

Like I said before, IE was dead when I got it. All of the formerly-active members had either quit ROBLOX, or the group itself. All of the veterans had dispersed and IE was a cold cadaver in the morgue of the Clan Community.

Therefore, with all of the active members gone, so were DarkRider's former followers. Once my leadership began, IE started fresh. All of the current active members are new, and presumably have little to no knowledge of DarkRider's former affiliation with IE. If they do have any knowledge of DarkRider, then they don't find it relevant. All DarkRider0797's sympathizers and supporters have no affiliation with IE any longer. They have left due to his departure, or gone inactive for the same reason.

"I gained 42k members, it now has 34k, so it lost 8k during his era." Wrong, DarkRider. IE has the same amount of members it had when I got the group. So, therefore, it lost 8K members when you gave up on it. So, the member loss is YOUR fault.

"Last time i checked You could only get like 5-10 to training." - HMAX12

And, if you check now, IE can get 15-20 per event.

So no. My leadership hasn't negatively effected IE at all. In fact, I brought it from it's dead state, as a result of DarkRider's bad decision to give up, to the state it's in now. IE isn't dead anymore. It's activity is constantly improving thanks to our management.

So, in short, comparing DarkRider to myself isn't proving anything. All you're really doing is bringing to light the fact that DarkRider's leadership was far different from mine, which is true. Solely, however, because of the in-between leadership changes, caused by DarkRider, that led to IE's demise.

If you're going to say DarkRider was a better leader than me, then so be it. Keep your opinion. But also keep in mind that DarkRider's era was not interrupted. There were a total of 3 or 4 leaders before me, which led to IE's death. I did not kill IE. In fact, I did quite the opposite.

That's all I'm really going to say. Any flawed accusations have been dispersed here.

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"TL;DR"
DarkRider's false accusations of me causing IE's death is utterly absurd. If he were to keep leading IE, it wouldn't have died. I didn't kill IE. I'm reviving it as a result of DarkRider's poor decision to get rid of IE.

- Though, you won't fully understand the entire situation without reading this entire post.

//:[IE] King Thomas.


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kasert is not online. kasert
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22 Sep 2013 12:23 PM
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eviljeffhardy21 is not online. eviljeffhardy21
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22 Sep 2013 12:24 PM
I didn't know there was a conflict
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LordValrath is not online. LordValrath
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22 Sep 2013 12:24 PM
I think you're doing a fine job.

~LV
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UndeadBurrito is not online. UndeadBurrito
Joined: 15 Jul 2012
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22 Sep 2013 12:24 PM
Right. You and DarkRider are completely different people who are leading the clan in completely different states. You both led it differently, so comparison of you two really doesn't make sense.

Everything DarkRider has thrown at you is really the result of his regret, in my opinion, of giving up IE. And like you said, you didn't lose 8K members. DarkRider was the cause of that for giving up.
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LordMiltonious is not online. LordMiltonious
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22 Sep 2013 12:25 PM
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Boyhaven is not online. Boyhaven
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22 Sep 2013 12:25 PM
Support


-R3PORT
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TheUltimation is not online. TheUltimation
Joined: 24 Sep 2011
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22 Sep 2013 12:30 PM
Yeah..
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McBloxDrink is not online. McBloxDrink
Joined: 03 Apr 2013
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22 Sep 2013 12:33 PM
I was in IE.
It was active.
dark is just a bunch of BS!
Shut up already.
Dark, get out.

Go here: http://www.roblox.com/Forum/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=113236081#113239264
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TheUltimation is not online. TheUltimation
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22 Sep 2013 12:43 PM
Mk.
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TheUltimation is not online. TheUltimation
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22 Sep 2013 12:47 PM
Bump.
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enzo90 is not online. enzo90
Joined: 25 Mar 2012
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22 Sep 2013 12:48 PM
"All the veterans dispersed" Are you forgetting about me? I was still there and I was a 2 year veteran.... "Ancientstone passed it to woot3" I know you do'nt know your correct but this is how it happened:Dark passed it up pyro got it, at his lead IE was great and active as it restarted a new age, pyro got scanned came the rule of someone else who sold the group to woot3 where activity went up for a bit then drowned as woot abandoned us, then ancients era things rose again and he left, drowning us in darkness, theultimations era came and we rose again then another terrible era after his then he comes back and we rise again. Long story isn't it?
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enzo90 is not online. enzo90
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22 Sep 2013 12:51 PM
Reading through this just some of the minor statements aren't true. "All the current active members are new and have little or no knowledge associated to darkrider." Some of us aren't but as you said if we have knowledge of dark, we have indeed tried to forget about it.
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DarkRider0797 is not online. DarkRider0797
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22 Sep 2013 12:51 PM
What I like is those who pass judgement on me are A. Haven't seen me lead IE because I led IE till 2012 and they joined 2013, and LordM you hardly attended trainings, therefore your comments about me are irrelevant, and I know for a fact Ultimation told a lot of you to back him up.
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SirHenryMagnus is not online. SirHenryMagnus
Joined: 23 Nov 2012
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22 Sep 2013 12:52 PM
Dark sells IE to pryovin
Pryovin takes the group as 'holder' while Sanchez and IE loyalists/veterans where at the command
pryovin sell the group to some idiot (HRs got all exiled/great progress got lost in this time.)
woot3 restored the group/started working on projects
woot3 gave IE to AS in hopes to give IE a better destiny
AncientStone starts a BIG reform/demote most of HRs
AncientStone sells IE but woot3 get it back
Woot3 gives the group to TheUltimation in hopes to give it a new future
TheUltimation start working on IE
but he gave it to Xeronax after some time due to problems
Xeronax hand the group back to TheUltimation.
(PRESENT- TheUltimation ERA )
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TheUltimation is not online. TheUltimation
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22 Sep 2013 12:52 PM
"I know for a fact Ultimation told a lot of you to back him up."

To be honest, Dark. I posted this, and since IE members occasionally forum, they post freely.

I don't ask for supporters.

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MM54321NO1FAN is not online. MM54321NO1FAN
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22 Sep 2013 12:53 PM
Support.
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DarkRider0797 is not online. DarkRider0797
Joined: 09 Dec 2009
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22 Sep 2013 12:55 PM
^
Here he is the person who thought he deserved a high rank, when he didn't do anything 'spectacular' in training's and kept spamming my PM's saying promo dark, promo?
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TheUltimation is not online. TheUltimation
Joined: 24 Sep 2011
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22 Sep 2013 12:56 PM
I don't hand out free promotions usually.

It's actually not hard to gain one, especially in IE's current state.

However I'm always scouting for worthy high ranks, and if I deem someone worthy, then I will approach them.

If you ask for one, though, I will instantly say no.
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sloppycanada is not online. sloppycanada
Joined: 05 Aug 2010
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22 Sep 2013 12:57 PM
Did you really just write an essay on how much better you are than Dark?
I'm taking sides, HOWEVER Dark did make IE, and he also gained 40k members.
He did not kill the group, his HRs did who were inactive and power hungry.

_//:-{-Teh Sloppeh-}:-
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Boyhaven is not online. Boyhaven
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22 Sep 2013 12:58 PM
No Dark is a little girl that likes to run Item/FR advertisements.
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TheUltimation is not online. TheUltimation
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22 Sep 2013 12:58 PM
"Did you really just write an essay on how much better you are than Dark?"

No, actually, I wrote an essay explaining why the accusations against me are false.

"I'm taking sides, HOWEVER Dark did make IE, and he also gained 40k members.
He did not kill the group, his HRs did who were inactive and power hungry."

>He gave up.
>You can exile HRs.
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DarkRider0797 is not online. DarkRider0797
Joined: 09 Dec 2009
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22 Sep 2013 12:59 PM
Ha a little girl? Seriously your only come back, you're just a boy, and you're messing with the BIG boys now.
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Boyhaven is not online. Boyhaven
Joined: 11 Jul 2008
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22 Sep 2013 01:00 PM
"Seriously your only come back, you're just a boy, and you're messing with the BIG boys now."

And your talking to me about my bad come back?
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TheUltimation is not online. TheUltimation
Joined: 24 Sep 2011
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22 Sep 2013 01:00 PM
Don't start irrelevant arguments on my thread.
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