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Re: Why do people blame Germany for starting WWI?

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Epiczombiekiller1998 is not online. Epiczombiekiller1998
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06 Sep 2013 06:52 AM
If it was Austria-Hungary who declared a war on Serbia.
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chiroksinii is not online. chiroksinii
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06 Sep 2013 08:50 AM
serbia provoked austria-hungary by assassinating archduke franz ferdinand. but its like franzs fault for going to somewhere where he was so hated and then basically showing off and stuff
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mikeyman12ash is not online. mikeyman12ash
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06 Sep 2013 12:45 PM
serbia assassinated archduke ferdinand though so i'd probably retaliate were i the leader of austria-hungary
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Dralin is not online. Dralin
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06 Sep 2013 01:30 PM
It was moreso Austria-Hungary's fault.

A pro-slavic terrorist group of sorts assassinated Ferdinand, or rather, they took credit for it after a very disgruntled adolescent killed him.

Following the arch duke's death, there was almost no anguish felt amongst Austro-Hungarian citizens whatsoever (much of the empire was already in decline and many of it's citizens were discontent with their government). Nonetheless, the Austro-Hungarian government used it as an opportunity to annex Serbia (or at least, that was their original plan). They gave Serbia an ultimatum, which had 10 conditions. The Serbian government accepted either 8 or 9 of the conditions (I don't quite recall), but refused one involving adding an Austro-Hungarian secret police force in Serbia, due to technicalities.

Austria-Hungary used their refusal as an excuse to invade Serbia, which pretty much went horribly wrong. They encountered much resistance and suffered heavy casualties. They quickly requested support from the German Empire, who complied, thus causing multiple other countries to join in, 2 on the side of Germany and Austria-Hungary (Ottoman Empire and Bulgaria) and the rest in opposition to them.

So, yeah, basically, Austria-Hungary deserves most of the blame for causing WWI.
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MaximumMinimizer is not online. MaximumMinimizer
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06 Sep 2013 09:36 PM
maybe because the germans invaded austria, or because not many people know much about wwi?
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Donutlova is not online. Donutlova
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06 Sep 2013 09:48 PM
@max

Germany were allies with austria in WW1

they made the central powers
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Alezendria is not online. Alezendria
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07 Sep 2013 12:32 AM
I'm part German! I find it offensive that people think Germany started WW1!
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flatline115 is not online. flatline115
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07 Sep 2013 12:51 AM
but its like franzs fault for going to somewhere where he was so hated and then basically showing off and stuff
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Going somewhere and trying to improve your relations with said area is TOTALLY asking to be killed /sarcasm
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Alezendria is not online. Alezendria
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07 Sep 2013 12:56 AM
Okay....? xD
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countykiller999 is not online. countykiller999
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07 Sep 2013 01:34 AM
they said it was germany because they dragged france in for no reason
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453654 is not online. 453654
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07 Sep 2013 01:58 AM
Because Germany's interests happened to collide with the Allies. I mean the Germany's had begun to take an interest into colonies and their weaponry and technology was growing at an increasing rate. The British and the other Europeans were taking out a rival. Correct me if I am wrong.
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bud390 is not online. bud390
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07 Sep 2013 10:59 AM
And also, many ignorant people think that after WW2, since Germany had to do with the holocaust, they thought of germany as evil. And so when they hear that germany is in WW2, they assume that they are the "bad guys".
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bud390 is not online. bud390
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07 Sep 2013 11:00 AM
I meant when they heard that germany was in WWI
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civilizationfreak is not online. civilizationfreak
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07 Sep 2013 11:07 AM
After Bismark was kicked out, Germany created an alliance with Italy and Austria-Hungary, and revoked their alliance with Russia. The other powers were basically like "Crap, they are going to take over" and made an alliance together. The Balkan part was just an excuse for Germany to get into a war.
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Alezendria is not online. Alezendria
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07 Sep 2013 03:55 PM
I am part German and it is very rude to blame Germans off WW1!
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civilizationfreak is not online. civilizationfreak
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07 Sep 2013 04:21 PM
Ha, you're funny kid.
I am part German too, but my family got out of there before WWI

anyways

Nobody is blaming "Germans" for starting WWI, we are blaming the German government. There is/was a difference. No need to get uppidy about it. The German government could have avoided war if they kept Bismark as high councilor but alas, it didn't work that way. No need to get butthurt about it.
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Alezendria is not online. Alezendria
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07 Sep 2013 04:33 PM
I am not a kid BTW! I am not butthurt!
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civilizationfreak is not online. civilizationfreak
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07 Sep 2013 04:36 PM
( -_-)
I really hope you read the rest of that.
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Alezendria is not online. Alezendria
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07 Sep 2013 05:00 PM
I did xD Also I am learning Russian so yeah... xD
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civilizationfreak is not online. civilizationfreak
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07 Sep 2013 05:05 PM
okay, well hear me out
whether or not it was Germany's fault, people forgive them now.
Their government is different, hardly anyone remembers that time (besides from their textbooks), and it has little impact on today's society if people think they started a war.
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Alezendria is not online. Alezendria
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07 Sep 2013 05:07 PM
Okay. (OFF TOPIC :D) I can do a Russian accent and speak some Russian even though I AM NOT Russian at all. I find that very ironic. But yet again Russians rock! (THAT WAS OT xD sorry)
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MeijiBushido is not online. MeijiBushido
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07 Sep 2013 05:09 PM
The German Empire made the conscious decision to back Austria-Hungary against the Russians. Serbia didn't provoke anyone on purpose, the Black Hand was a revolutionary Serbian group that wanted to free Bosnia however they did not act on the discretion nor the order of Serbia, and were not accepted by the Serbians. The only reason World War One WAS a World War was because The German Empire got involved.
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Alezendria is not online. Alezendria
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07 Sep 2013 05:11 PM
Okay... But I still think it is not Germany's fault! I am part German and Irish so yeah... It might not or may be their fault but don't blame Germans! (I can like Russians if I want! My mom does not care!)
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MeijiBushido is not online. MeijiBushido
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07 Sep 2013 05:12 PM
You can have your opinion, but the fact is the only reason World War One was a de facto, de jure "World War" was because Germany jumped in, therefore they started it.
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Alezendria is not online. Alezendria
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07 Sep 2013 05:14 PM
Don't blame Germans! I am part German and I find it very offensive that you guys are blaming Germany!
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