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Re: I prefer new Exodus to old Exodus, personally

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ShotgunLogic is not online. ShotgunLogic
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25 Aug 2013 06:58 PM
I mean, Fabulous Disaster and Impact Is Imminent and Pleasures of the Flesh are classics, no doubt about it
but I find Bonded By Blood to be extremely overrated

meanwhile, I think that stuff like Tempo of The Damned and Shovel-Headed Kill Machine are absolutely spellbinding
why do so many thrash fans hate those albums? they're heavier than their old stuff, faster than some of their old stuff, and have insane riffs and awesome double bass

is it because all the 80's thrashers wish that their overrated king Baloff was still around to save them from that "metalcore singer" Chris Dukes?

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25 Aug 2013 06:59 PM
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Bodomfan is not online. Bodomfan
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25 Aug 2013 07:00 PM
I prefer their new stuff too.

And it's Rob, not Chris.
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ShotgunLogic is not online. ShotgunLogic
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25 Aug 2013 07:01 PM
@Bodom
his name is Rob?
I thought it was Chris lol
I've heard the name "Chris" all over the place on Exodus videos
you sure?
@ugly
hell yeahz

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Bodomfan is not online. Bodomfan
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25 Aug 2013 07:04 PM
The only guy named Chris who ever played in Exodus is some drummer they used in 1993 for concerts...
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Crash6351 is not online. Crash6351
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25 Aug 2013 07:05 PM
i have exhibit b on vinyl and it's probably in my top 10 thrash albums (and highest ranking exodus album)

though it's p. long
i have it on vinyl (picture disc)
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ShotgunLogic is not online. ShotgunLogic
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25 Aug 2013 07:06 PM
@Crash
yeah Exhibit B kicks ass too

I might also be the only person that prefers the LTBB version of Bonded By Blood over the original but
oh god the production on BBB is god awful
and Baloff was not a good vocalist at all, man

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25 Aug 2013 07:22 PM
"I mean, Fabulous Disaster and Impact Is Imminent and Pleasures of the Flesh are classics, no doubt about it
but I find Bonded By Blood to be extremely overrated"

Bonded by Blood is extremely great, how do you find it to be overrated?

"meanwhile, I think that stuff like Tempo of The Damned and Shovel-Headed Kill Machine are absolutely s
spellbinding"

These albums aren't bad in the slightest.

"why do so many thrash fans hate those albums? they're heavier than their old stuff, faster than some of their old stuff, and have insane riffs and awesome double bass"

Different reasons, one may compare them to a different band that is loads better which makes Exodus look lame in total. Some people just like their older albums better. Also, Exodus isn't 100% thrash, they do groove in some of those later albums you mentioned.

"is it because all the 80's thrashers wish that their overrated king Baloff was still around to save them from that "metalcore singer" Chris Dukes?"

i'm not going to lie, i liked baloff better as vocalist than dukes. anyone who calls dukes a "metalcore singer" is idiotic because dukes is a solid vocalist.
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ShotgunLogic is not online. ShotgunLogic
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25 Aug 2013 07:24 PM
@Asmodeus
for me, it's Souza>Dukes>>>Baloff
Baloff is an awful vocalist
and that's why BBB is overrated: everyone hails it as a classic when it's plagued by awful production and horrid vocals
by the way it's not very fast or heavy for a thrash album, either

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25 Aug 2013 07:28 PM
"for me, it's Souza>Dukes>>>Baloff
Baloff is an awful vocalist"

Completely subjective.

"and that's why BBB is overrated: everyone hails it as a classic when it's plagued by awful production and horrid vocals"

BBB was made in 1985 and it was a debut album, you can't expect amazing production qualities. Going beyond the vocalist, the instrumental work is great.

"by the way it's not very fast or heavy for a thrash album, either"

mid-tempo thrash exists, listen to south of heaven.
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ShotgunLogic is not online. ShotgunLogic
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25 Aug 2013 07:31 PM
"Completely subjective"
you can honestly not sit there and say that Baloff squealing like a dying cat is more entertaining than the vocals of Dukes or Souza
"BBB was made in 1985 and it was a debut album, you can't expect amazing production qualities."
maybe so, but debuts like Killing Is My Business and Show No Mercy still sounded better than BBB
"Going beyond the vocalist, the instrumental work is great."
the instrumentation is average at best for thrash at the time
"mid-tempo thrash exists, listen to south of heaven."
South of Heaven is my favourite album of all time, mainly because it blends fast songs and slow songs perfectly
Bonded By Blood does not do that at all, it instead just moves along like a cat with two broken legs

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25 Aug 2013 07:33 PM
"maybe so, but debuts like Killing Is My Business and Show No Mercy still sounded better than BBB"

what are you smoking
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ShotgunLogic is not online. ShotgunLogic
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25 Aug 2013 07:35 PM
@Crash
it's true
the production of KIMB and SNM, while bad, was at least better than BBB

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Crash6351 is not online. Crash6351
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25 Aug 2013 07:37 PM
"the production of KIMB and SNM, while bad, was at least better than BBB"

are you listening to the remaster of KIMB
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25 Aug 2013 07:37 PM
"you can honestly not sit there and say that Baloff squealing like a dying cat is more entertaining than the vocals of Dukes or Souza"

I like Baloff's vocals because they add to the overall atmosphere of the music, like how Cronos' vocals makes Venom's music sound more diabloc, Baloff's vocals make it sound similarly to that. Saying that is like saying Death Metal vocals sound like constipated giants.

"maybe so, but debuts like Killing Is My Business and Show No Mercy still sounded better than BBB"

Actually, both of those albums had low quality. You may have heard a better produced version, like how they did with BBB after its success. Production really shouldn't bug you if you can hear the music at a satisfactory level anyway, and you can with BBB.

"the instrumentation is average at best for thrash at the time"

BBB has numerous excellent riffs, Strike of the Beast and Metal Command for starters.

"South of Heaven is my favourite album of all time, mainly because it blends fast songs and slow songs perfectly
Bonded By Blood does not do that at all, it instead just moves along like a cat with two broken legs"

Good, albums are not supposed to sound alike. Maybe you should give BBB another try.

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ShotgunLogic is not online. ShotgunLogic
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25 Aug 2013 07:37 PM
@Crash
haha no
okay maybe scratch off KIMB and drop in Kill Em All
or even Fistful of Metal or The Legacy, maybe

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ShotgunLogic is not online. ShotgunLogic
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25 Aug 2013 07:38 PM
@Asmodeus
alright, I'll try Bonded By Blood again
I'm not expecting to like it, but I'll give it a shot

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DrAwsomeMonkey is not online. DrAwsomeMonkey
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25 Aug 2013 10:04 PM
Kill 'Em All was gr8, so was Fistful of Metal, Killing Is My Business is amazing, and I like Show No Mercy, but they sound like Venom wanna-bes
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