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SlayerJones is not online. SlayerJones
Joined: 19 Apr 2012
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20 Aug 2013 06:27 PM
Ok, the recent events with M.E and Optyx can only confirm how clans and clan warfare has officially gone down the drain - ESRs and ridiculous rules (Waiting for 6 M.E before you can even enter, Holmes? Ridiculous) and AA. Then you have the VAK - TGI war, which has turned into a flame fest and has lost the original purpose of the war itself: To settle a long lived rivalry and see who is the better clan. The war may was well be called RAT vs VAK 2.0, because that's where it's heading.

While TGI and VAK have attempted to bring back the principle of endurance and fighting until surrender, do you honestly think it's going to stay that way forever. Unless Vaktus surrenders so he can internally sort out VAK due to the shoddy state it's currently in, then no - it will likely dull down to a simple final battle due to the popularity with RCL in the clan world's recent state. So far this war that was anticipated to be a great one has become nothing more than a war of insulting eachother:
"You're too scared to fight!"
"You are inactive!"
"Your objectives are unfair!"
"You're party crashing us!"

Also, it's well known that the best clan is all in the opinion of the person, but what clan has shown originality about it recently? WIJ created the cP and efficient mainframe systems and most other clans have followed suit - I mean look how popular holo trainings are, besides a very small few. Each clan has copied one idea from eachother, whether they incorporated it better or not - it's never going to be original. Also, myself personally have seen clans using the same themes:

"Empire"
"Corporation"
"Security"
"Space Forces"
etc

Personally, yeah I made this to rant and get a page of tl;drs - which is cool. But I personally think something needs to be done, maybe one clan will start up and make a difference.

Up to you guys if you care or not so, a short version:

tl;dr: Clans suck, make something cool.


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SlayerJones is not online. SlayerJones
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20 Aug 2013 06:30 PM
i like ranting
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Limitex is not online. Limitex
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20 Aug 2013 06:31 PM
suppppooorrttt
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SlayerJones is not online. SlayerJones
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20 Aug 2013 06:32 PM
ya grape
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Arcarius is not online. Arcarius
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20 Aug 2013 06:32 PM
rants are fun
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SlayerJones is not online. SlayerJones
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20 Aug 2013 06:33 PM
yes they are
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SlayerJones is not online. SlayerJones
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20 Aug 2013 06:34 PM
who likes reading
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SlayerJones is not online. SlayerJones
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20 Aug 2013 06:35 PM
i like reading
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gamma2244 is not online. gamma2244
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20 Aug 2013 06:35 PM
I did Security cause it fit the lore I was trying to build it up with the best :|

//:QUANTUM MARSHAL:\\//:OPTICANT SECURITY BARON:\\ <3 AK-47's
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fryber11 is not online. fryber11
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20 Aug 2013 06:36 PM
You forgot to put things like:

"Army"
"Legion"
"Forces"
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SlayerJones is not online. SlayerJones
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20 Aug 2013 06:37 PM
if you need to use the same thing for your lore, you need a more original lore
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Roflmao33 is not online. Roflmao33
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20 Aug 2013 06:40 PM
I don't think Vaktus, VAK HRs or TGI HRs are the ones to blame. No one can control the emotions of multiple people at one time. Yeah, they can get exiled, demoted etc. But what good does that do? It lowers morale and makes them resent their group command. Let everyone whine and flame if they want to, but if that's what will happen the losing side's LRs would be to blame for once and not shoddy leadership.
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SlayerJones is not online. SlayerJones
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20 Aug 2013 06:41 PM
never said they were?
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gamma2244 is not online. gamma2244
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20 Aug 2013 06:42 PM
@Slayer,

>didn't read my description,

get out.

//:QUANTUM MARSHAL:\\//:OPTICANT SECURITY BARON:\\ <3 AK-47's
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UrbanMidnightShades is not online. UrbanMidnightShades
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20 Aug 2013 06:43 PM
Imperium
Federation
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crplsteve is not online. crplsteve
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20 Aug 2013 06:44 PM
I'm in one of the few first clans, we set trends and make standards.
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Roflmao33 is not online. Roflmao33
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20 Aug 2013 06:44 PM
@Slayer No one is blaming anyone, I know that. I'm just saying flaming can't be stopped and any of the side HRs shouldn't get the brunt of the consequences. I say reprisals are put in order. For example, no trainings, extreme lack of promotions, the like.
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SlayerJones is not online. SlayerJones
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20 Aug 2013 06:47 PM
@gamma

i did it - it's overused

"pmc that fights in warzones to secure and protect areas for buyers"
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gamma2244 is not online. gamma2244
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20 Aug 2013 06:50 PM
This, my stupid little friend, is what it is.

"government funded PMC stationed in some of the hottest conflict zones on Gallanus, and inter-galactic." Not once does it say "for buyers". Please, quote it properly if you're even going to attempt it.

//:QUANTUM MARSHAL:\\//:OPTICANT SECURITY BARON:\\ <3 AK-47's
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SlayerJones is not online. SlayerJones
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20 Aug 2013 06:54 PM
private military corporations are hired as an army to take down threats or to help lower the heat on a specific point in a battlefield
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gamma2244 is not online. gamma2244
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20 Aug 2013 07:38 PM
Slayer, that's an obvious. But just cause you want to show its description, does not mean you alter what is actually said, you accompany the referenced material with it.

//:QUANTUM MARSHAL:\\//:OPTICANT SECURITY BARON:\\ <3 AK-47's
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Vaktus is not online. Vaktus
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21 Aug 2013 08:50 AM
This may very well be of little significance to you or your view on the overall scale of things, but I simply wish to make a point to you on the topic of Vaktovians flaming.

You say this war has become nothing but a 'flame-fest', but neither I nor the Generals I have spoken to have found significant amounts of flames coming from Vaktovians, both in-game and on C&G. The most amount of flaming we've been able to identify has come from VACs who were promptly punished shortly thereafter, or from rare occurrences of raging Vaktovians who were also immediately reprimanded.

I'd like to reinforce the fact that we are doing everything we can to swat out any flame that may arise from us at any time, both in this war and beyond. True Vaktovians do not flame, true Vaktovians do not whine. *If* there are large amounts of flame that we have somehow missed, we can only silence them once we are notified of their existence. If TGI is starting a flame-war so be it, but we will not add to the fire.

One final point I shall make clear. We will *not* be ending this war in a final battle of any kind. Final battles go against everything war stands for and represents. Brickster knew and understood this, I believe ToberDam does as well. No side of this war can force the other to end the war by any means, as we stated in the officially agreed-upon War Terms. If we were to say "TGI, final battle or autowin" and TGI did not think a final battle was necessary, we would lose the war for declaring victory.


Thank you, for your time.



~ The Master of Masters, the Deliverer of Darkness, the Shogun of Sorrow ~
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Jack37a is not online. Jack37a
Joined: 02 Sep 2009
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21 Aug 2013 08:52 AM
@Slayer

U TURNED COMMUNIST?!?!

I'm Bane. ( ° ͜ʖ °)
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PLOOBER33 is not online. PLOOBER33
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21 Aug 2013 09:01 AM
Clans are boring play apocalypse rising
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NinjaWing is not online. NinjaWing
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21 Aug 2013 09:03 AM
The vast majority of flaming that I've seen comes from TGI and I know for a fact as an ex-VAK Captain that flaming is not tolerated in VAK.
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