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| 14 Aug 2013 06:05 PM |
I hope you realize who your nation is allied too...
http://www.roblox.com/Groups/group.aspx?gid=876471
Bukhara is, from their claims, lead up to be a Fascist Military Theocracy. They force anyone they want to into war with them using their allies as play toys to target who they want. They recently used Granada and Prussia to do so via the Eurasian Union that they established. Even at that, they minoritized Prussia in their own alliance, keeping only Bukhara and Granada in power.
I feel that if everyone wants to ally Bukhara, or let Bukhara ally with them, then they should have the right to know what Bukhara has done recently.
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| 14 Aug 2013 06:08 PM |
LOL
Love the fake evidence you have here.
If you knew the history of Granada, Bukhara and Prussia's leaders you'd know.
1. their friends and unlike you they don't try and explore eachother's local caves.
2. they were all under my leadership when I ran groups.
if you want i could just tip ALL the dirt we have on you and your group now if you want. :P |
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| 14 Aug 2013 06:11 PM |
| ain't you just a silly filly, hurst? |
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| 14 Aug 2013 06:14 PM |
| Bukhara and Granada are the tip of the spear, while Prussia is the beautifully crafted, golden handle, crafted in the great fires of Vulcan's forge. |
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| 14 Aug 2013 06:23 PM |
| The stupidity radiating off Hurst is just hilarious. Seriously, a hashtag? Ha ha ha, oh wow. |
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| 14 Aug 2013 06:24 PM |
@King: I do not care if you haven't done what, or what has occurred... Granada and Bukhara have personal ranks in the Eurasian Union, as anyone else who joins is placed under a rank straight at the bottom.
@Master: Ok... so the handle isn't used much apparently... not much swinging going on. More of a stationed border than anything currently. |
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| 14 Aug 2013 06:25 PM |
| @Little: Should I explain the Fascist part? Bukhara typed that out in complete English grammar. Anyone can notice it once put to reading. |
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bunrboy
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| 14 Aug 2013 06:26 PM |
Definition of Facism: "Fascism views political violence, war, and imperialism as a means to achieve national rejuvenation and asserts that stronger nations have the right to obtain land and resources by displacing weaker nations."
1. you have vassals which you have gained through conquest, meaning you are an imperialist who subjugates groups less able to defend themselves (making them a minority), Bukhara fighting to release them. 2. you and the congress censor URFC's wall (evidence in the audit log), which violates your member's free speech and disallows them to express there true emotions which you seem so intent on keeping hidden from us. 3. all member states of the Eurasian Union choose to join, nobody is lesser then the other as we are all equally pooling our manpower and resources (like an ACTUAL federation). 4. I feel everyone should know about what URFC and it's leadership is really like, so I took the time to compile two videos for everyone to view: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACn6NfYCQQI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMamQSm3r0k 5. Infact, the Eurasian Union just shows everyone how I care about my allies and friends more then you do hurst, anybody remotely useful just sees how much of an idiot you are and ignores you. |
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| 14 Aug 2013 06:35 PM |
@Bunr: Before I even read that paragraph you posted...
Read what you posted in one of your Bukhara member parties...
"TAU follow Yazdanism, is a ideology of Bukharan ultra-nationalism, ethnocentrism, militarism and mass action to promote national unity and supremacy.
An Ayatollah is a high-ranking title given to Twelver Shī‘ah clerics and are experts in Islamic law and studies, thus they are qualified to collectively lead the nation in accordance to the Sharia."
First off... "ideology of Bukharan ultra-nationalism, ethnocentrism, militarism, and mass action to promote national unity and supremacy" That phrase right there is completely yelling out a remake of WWII Germany... Anyone can see that clear as day. Ultra-nationalism and such are parts of Fascist forces around the 3 Reich's era.
Second... "An Ayatollah is a high-ranking title given to Twelver Shī‘ah clerics and are experts in Islamic law and studies, thus they are qualified to collectively lead the nation in accordance to the Sharia" May not be seen by some people, but from what I read mixed with this quote, this is basically pointing out that Muslims are in majority power over everyone else and only certain Muslim are allowed to have power within your nation.
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| 14 Aug 2013 06:45 PM |
@Michael.
you clearly know nothing about the Bukharan way. the group is just a roleplay group. it has no significance on how the group is run.
I suggest sorting out your own group first before thinking you're the guru of Clan leadership, which Bunr's videos show you are not.
http://www.roblox.com/Forum/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=109762201 |
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| 14 Aug 2013 06:46 PM |
@Bunr's First Post:
1. None of the vassals or member nations that we have were earned through conquest. Those nations were given to me randomly to lead, so I merged them with URFC to be ran universally at the same time in technical terms.
2. I delete accidental spam, and all of spam but one message. If Congress have done that, then I can check and deal with that problem easily due to being informed of that thought for a first time.
3. An actual Federation doesn't have to unify in military power. A Federation is what it is mainly by just a group of states/nations unified under one banner. Take notice that URFC does resort to unified military though, and that followers of member nations to URFC have joined our military to remain active (UFA and UK both).
4. You only took video of "part" of conversations or debates, immediately making all you put into those videos invalid. If you want to prove something, make sure everyone can see ALL of what is going on for a change.
5. Anyone remotely useful ignores us because we ignore them. Our allies don't help us, because they weren't asked to help us; our allies aren't getting much help, because they don't need it, or didn't ask for it. Everyone we are with is in good shape with themselves, as I still work on minor projects for everyone in our little bunch (tanks, guns, uniforms, ads). |
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| 14 Aug 2013 06:47 PM |
First off, If I where trying to remake the Third Reich, then why am I missing out the most important values, such as: Antisemitism Hate of communism and fascism ( This group was originally based on the Ba'ath party, which is socialist) Nawt zi Occultism German Supremacy Eradication of everybody who is not white Economic centrism
Read the definition of Fascism according to Emilio Gentile, because you have no idea what you are talking about.
Second, you do not even know what an Ayatollah is, let alone what roles he fulfills, and not to mention that the vast majority of all are secular or athiest (TheAyatollah is probably the only shia muslim we know of).
And also, has anyone noticed how the President, Vice President, and some congress and police are all furries and g ai like hurst, seems to me like hurst is promoting what he sees as a superior race.
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| 14 Aug 2013 06:49 PM |
You know hurst, If you find us so unbearable, then maybe you ought at actually raid us for once?
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| 14 Aug 2013 06:54 PM |
"And also, has anyone noticed how the President, Vice President, and some congress and police are all furries and g ai like hurst, seems to me like hurst is promoting what he sees as a superior race."
Very true, he also appears to be a LGBT supremacist. (His LGBT only place is good proof of this: http://www.roblox.com/LGBT-only-server-Desc-gives-lil-bit-more-place?id=108409260)
It's funny how Hurst and his army of 460+ army of immigrants had to back out of a war with a 23+ member group that can only muster around 7 troops at most. |
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| 14 Aug 2013 06:55 PM |
"You know hurst, If you find us so unbearable, then maybe you ought at actually raid us for once?"
He's too scared to raid us, he still has nightmares about that one raid at Kudan during the Timurid-URFC war! |
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| 14 Aug 2013 06:56 PM |
| Also notice how rather then addressing the valid points made in both videos, he instead resorts to dismissing them, because he knows they completely check-mate everything he says. |
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| 14 Aug 2013 06:59 PM |
@ Hurst
"1. None of the vassals or member nations that we have were earned through conquest. Those nations were given to me randomly to lead, so I merged them with URFC to be ran universally at the same time in technical terms." -- Vassals, again you use this term = Empire Building. -- "Member nations", you mean groups under the control of the URFC, AKA Vassals. -- Your evidence on them given to you? Again, you prove that you are EMPIRE BUILDING.
"2. I delete accidental spam, and all of spam but one message. If Congress have done that, then I can check and deal with that problem easily due to being informed of that thought for a first time." -- This is false, our evidence and monitoring of your group shows that you and your dictatorial regime remove all negative criticism from your groups wall and only allowing the positive things to remain.
"3. An actual Federation doesn't have to unify in military power. A Federation is what it is mainly by just a group of states/nations unified under one banner. Take notice that URFC does resort to unified military though, and that followers of member nations to URFC have joined our military to remain active (UFA and UK both)." -- Again use of "member nations" AKA groups controlled by URFC AKA VASSALS AKA EMPIRE BUILDING. -- "Joined our military to remain active", I'm sure their leaders were doing fine until you showed up. Last i saw of UFP and UFA, they weren't subject to you and were, in fact, AT WAR with you. the fact that you OWN UFA shows that you are empire building and not only that, UFA and UFP were friends, their leaders were friends and you have split them apart.
"4. You only took video of "part" of conversations or debates, immediately making all you put into those videos invalid. If you want to prove something, make sure everyone can see ALL of what is going on for a change." -- Ok you bring up EVERY PIECE of URFC Audit Log to prove us wro- oh wait, I forgot, we already can access it, and have. This is how we know all the evidence given is legit.
"5. Anyone remotely useful ignores us because we ignore them. Our allies don't help us, because they weren't asked to help us; our allies aren't getting much help, because they don't need it, or didn't ask for it. Everyone we are with is in good shape with themselves, as I still work on minor projects for everyone in our little bunch (tanks, guns, uniforms, ads)." -- this is because your allies know to stay a way from you fro long periods of time otherwise they'll end up like UFA and UK army. |
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| 14 Aug 2013 07:01 PM |
@King: If your group is role play, then wth are you guys taking a war like this so serious for no reason then? I also happen to have most of everything everything needed sorted out, as you claimed I should do. If anything, Bukhara needs a little bit of help. I do my own work as it is needed or required without others telling me it is.
@Bunr: I didn't say "remake" the 3rd Reich, I was basing stuff from them to Bukhara's current views. Read it carefully again...
Emilio isn't the only Fascist writer... and one person's definition doesn't mean it is 100% true. That is like saying Communism is only one branch with no other definitions of what it should be.
I didn't say I did know, I said from what you posted, it points out such as what I stated. Add a cleared definition if you didn't want such claims.
Also, I promote no certain people to power based on what they are... I promote them for who they are, as in ability and dedication wise. They chose what they are by their own decisions, and the VP had majority of all votes in URFC to be put into office. You cannot say that we are a Fascist nation or a dictatorship.
@Theayatollah: Sure... if you weren't so immature in fights...
Supporting events:
-Bukhara (and many allies) raiding URFC and claiming our base is unfair without investigating it like I said to do. I even found the AK-47s are accidentally posted to do 5-10 points higher damage than a VR-12C we use on the URFC team.
-In the raid URFC did with GBA, URFC started out legit until GBA and Bukhara troops started doing immature crap, rather than the direct fight that we expect. Also to add into this topic, "UFP" members even warned us not to raid GBA!
-From the start of the war, Granada and Bukhara made poorly supported claims that rarely anyone believes up to date now. Bukhara claimed they would use "drastic actions" due to stuff I have no clue what had occurred if it did. You guys openly started this flame war on your own, and act like URFC is the fault to all evil in the universe. |
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| 14 Aug 2013 07:04 PM |
| @Bunrboy. Indeed. Also, Hurst, Granada doesn't have a personal rank in Eurasia as it's above any other member states (As well as Bukhara), but because the union between Granada and Bukhara is what lead to the formation of the Eurasian Union |
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| 14 Aug 2013 07:05 PM |
| Lol don't whine about starting flame wars, you are the one who decided to try (and fail)to smear us on the forums, you get everything you deserve. |
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| 14 Aug 2013 07:06 PM |
| @King and his long message of comebacks: Not even going to bother repeating what I said. That's your childish problem for saying exact things, that you already said and also without "your" proof, over and over again. Now you sound exactly like Bunr and Little, meaning weak minded. |
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| 14 Aug 2013 07:07 PM |
| By rarely anyone, you seem to mean you fail to believe them, as most people we show our evidence to believe us, maybe if you let your members express what they feel and find out the truth for themselves, then they would agree with us, but they can't while you behave like a tyrant and censor the wall. |
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| 14 Aug 2013 07:09 PM |
| See what I mean, the C&G fire department has arrived, hurst tried to flame and ended up setting himself on fire. |
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