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Re: Mandorian Reformation

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LordShadowCrusher is not online. LordShadowCrusher
Joined: 24 Oct 2011
Total Posts: 35
12 Aug 2013 10:14 AM
It has occurred to me over the past few months or so, that Mandor is spiraling further and further from the original basis that we were built upon, and the old standards of our soldiers, most importantly. It sickens me to see LRs address our great Cesher by saying: "yo helpa what up?". Does that sound even the least bit acceptable? In Ages past, there were REAL tests for Masenhof, and for Grand-Masenhof. Some of our current HRs have worse grammar and respect than some of our Lekadens. I propose a new way for us to completely restore Mandor to our high standards of soldiers, and make sure all of our men portray the excellence, discipline and skill that we strive for in Mandor. Currently we'll shout a training, and have 2 LRs show up along with 5 HRs. Last year, 10 LRs would have shown up, and maybe 2 HRs. The following are my view of the steps that must be taken to preserve the dignity and honor of Mandor from Ages past:

STEP I:
This step is both the simplest and in some ways the hardest. I suggest that we basically restart all of our LRs and MRs, and all the HRs who truly do not deserve their ranks. That includes the Cesher demoting EVERYONE besides the HRs who have a head upon their shoulders and still demonstrate the skill and discipline we need. Everyone should be put back to civilians, and should REALLY have to work hard to get their ranks back. Some exceptions may apply to the demotion, like those whom the Cesher and the Dankor believe still deserve their ranks.

STEP II:
After the demotion, we need to implement a system of promotion that all the HRs can agree on, that really makes sure that the soldiers deserve the rank they desire. I believe that a personal 1 on 1 test of skill with weapons, listening and responding training, discipline and language usage should be implemented for every rank. The tests get longer and harder, and accept less mistakes at each rank. Masenhof tests should be recommended to the Cesher by GMs or the Dankor, and GMs may only be selected by the Cesher, and recommended by the Dankor.

STEP III:
I also propose that we start putting a higher emphasis on grammar as well. Nothing too special, just caps and punctuation. It goes a long way to make a group look professional, and also to more clearly understand what our brethren are trying to say. "raders at te gat nao cume pl0z" is a puzzle to understand, for those of us who care enough to use grammar. Many current Mandors will be unhappy with that, and to those who are, I say: leave. Simple enough.

STEP IV:
We need to eliminate the people in Mandor who think of it all as fun and games, and have no respect for HRs, nor their own brethren. We should be built upon respect, and any person who wishes to hinder that, should not be given any leeway. It should be met with strict punishment right away. We aren't a party, or a daycare. We're a war and RPing group. If that is not how you find "fun" then so be it. Leave and join Jardia. They seem to love noobs. I am not saying that we should eliminate fun times, either, but on patrols, and when given directions, you are to follow them ASAP. No fooling around unless authorized, and no random parties or whatnot while on a patrol or training. I cannot count how many times I have seen a HR command a LR to guard whatever post at a base, and the LR stays there for about 5 seconds, then walks off to talk to their friends. That is unacceptable.

STEP V:
A higher emphasis on the importance of our great Cesher should be active now, though it is not. That is to be changed. The Cesher is our monarch and ruler, he who judges us and leads us to greatness upon the battlefield. He is the fire that keeps our furnace going, the sun to our solar panels. (You get the point.) Either way, he should be addressed as "sire" and "the Cesher" when being spoken to or about. "Helper" is not acceptable, even for the older HRs. He is not our drinking buddy. He is our King.

This is a system of reformation as seen through my perspective, and I understand that many will disagree with it. All the reply I need is from the Cesher himself, as to whether he approves or not. All others will be disregarded, so PLEASE do not waste your time, or make yourself look idiotic flaming me, the idea, or promoting some other group. Thank you.

~Grand-Masenhof Arnaud Hammerfeld, LordShadowCrusher
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TheBrickBinder is not online. TheBrickBinder
Joined: 14 Aug 2012
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12 Aug 2013 10:33 AM
Building a group is like building a tower, you make new floors, new ways, but in the end you use the same support from lower floors. I half-agree.
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Manadrain is not online. Manadrain
Joined: 26 Jul 2011
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12 Aug 2013 10:49 AM
Agreed

@Step II High ranks wont be bothered/have time to test. Unless we start testing from Fyngar and up. Lets simply change that.

We should be able to take things less seriously when permitted. This would be after trainings/raids etc. Though, if a high rank tells you to address them seriously, even though the time does not call for it, do as he/she says.

I think it is worth specifically pointing out I support Step I. By doing this, it will be easier to determine who deserves what rank - You get a better overveiw. Importantly, make sure you can remember the Mandorian's previous rank.

- Grand Masenhof Azysel Zagrebaath
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EpicWildz is not online. EpicWildz
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12 Aug 2013 10:49 AM
tl;dr

GG no re
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LordShadowCrusher is not online. LordShadowCrusher
Joined: 24 Oct 2011
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12 Aug 2013 11:08 AM
I understand and support the improvements that Manadrain has provided. Thank you.
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donaldx is not online. donaldx
Joined: 02 May 2008
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12 Aug 2013 04:05 PM
I disagree with this reform. But not like I can stop it.
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snooty131 is not online. snooty131
Joined: 23 Dec 2010
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12 Aug 2013 04:07 PM
I oppose to this I don't wan't it Just teach people the ways and exile them if they don't.
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Zippa01 is not online. Zippa01
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12 Aug 2013 04:08 PM
erm


an apple is my biffle
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LordShadowCrusher is not online. LordShadowCrusher
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12 Aug 2013 07:31 PM
Did I or did I not state clearly at the end of this, that the only people I wanted to reply, were those who have suggestions, not just saying "no" or "yes", and/or the Cesher himself. Quite frankly, I do not give a flying squirrel about the opinions of others unless they provide a logical improvement.
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donaldx is not online. donaldx
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12 Aug 2013 07:46 PM
Yer response, the one I am replying to right now, was completely uncalled for and rude. Restrain yer rage, Lord. We're all human, we might have missed that line. >.>
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LordShadowCrusher is not online. LordShadowCrusher
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12 Aug 2013 07:52 PM
Are you implying that you are unable to read? Dyslexic? Sight problem? Or just never learned? Perhaps you don't care enough to read the last lines of these things? Either way, not my problem. It is CLEARLY stated. Hard to miss. You're adding to the replies by continually posting...
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donaldx is not online. donaldx
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12 Aug 2013 07:56 PM
Excuse me? Now that was a personal jab and I won't stand for it. Some of us speedread and miss a line or two. Yer last line is too small to be a paragraph.
Or some of us scrolled down too quickly and missed it.
Stop insulting us.
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Theonedude is not online. Theonedude
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12 Aug 2013 08:32 PM
Is this internal strife I see? Lord, you are being an arsehat by stating how the replies must be done.
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WOLFEDUDE is not online. WOLFEDUDE
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12 Aug 2013 10:58 PM
Step I: A mass demotion is a hard thing to do, and makes members angry. Espically ones who have been really trying for their rank. MRs espically. HRs, GMs earned that rank toughly, so they stay with it, as for Ms, different story. I don't strongly agree, but small changes could help it.

Step II: A new system, a harder system needs to be put down on promotions, aye. I agree with that. I don't know if I read it 100% right but, tests on every rank for a promotion is something I disagree with.

Step III: I fully agree on making grammar something big in Mandor. It is in the College, and if HRs want to stay HRs, they are to have grammar.

Step IV: I don't have much opinion with this one. I'd go either way, in times of War, we do need to be 100% serious, no play time.

Step V: Agreed, not only our Cesher, but LRs, and MRs, need to start calling HRs Masta' our language for Master. And helper, Sire, Masta' Cesher, either way.

Lord. donald. Stop arguing on this Forum, not only do ye make yerselves look foolish, ye make Mandoria look foolish, and embarrass Mandor.

-Dankor Wolfe, of Mandoria-
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polat32 is not online. polat32
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13 Aug 2013 12:35 AM
i agree whtch wolfdude
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snooty131 is not online. snooty131
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13 Aug 2013 05:18 AM
I agree with Wolfe :D
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iiimee101 is not online. iiimee101
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13 Aug 2013 08:15 AM
May I please suggest we start having more training hours? It is hard I think for some who are on at different times to find a time to train. Also, training means more soldiers, and more soldiers mean our empire will be protected almost all the time. If you put more training hours in the many things then forgive me, I did'nt see it.
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voma2bannedalt3 is not online. voma2bannedalt3
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13 Aug 2013 09:48 AM
Step 1: I highly suggest we demote MRs which haven't been active or which haven't struggled hard enough to achieve that rank.

Step 3: I agree that you want to remove languages such as "omg noob rediurz r hier pls defend nao" and imply high grammar, but I think you should care more for their vocabulary and rationality, for example I can say with grammar: "Omgg. Raider are there lol let's defend against these noobs guys." whereas I could simply say without grammar: "alright guys we have some company lets show them how mandor stand against every attack HAIL MANDORIA!" I think we both prefer the second option.

Also, try getting HRs to have at least two trainings a day, not each two trainings, but as a total.
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voma2bannedalt3 is not online. voma2bannedalt3
Joined: 11 Aug 2013
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13 Aug 2013 09:49 AM
I got banned and I am now stalking Mandors, I just gave some suggestions.
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LordShadowCrusher is not online. LordShadowCrusher
Joined: 24 Oct 2011
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13 Aug 2013 01:27 PM
Well, so much for no replies without a damn good reason. Bugger that. Wolfe, it's not tests for every rank. Typo. Promos for every MR, that would be good. As for the argument, I'm just really angry lately, and I am sick of random people replying to things that do NOT concern them whatsoever, and just trolling. It is idiotic and unneeded.
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