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Re: Do you guys use a VPN / Tor / care about infonet privacy

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BeatTheRawMeat is not online. BeatTheRawMeat
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03 Aug 2013 07:40 PM
yo
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blocco is not online. blocco
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03 Aug 2013 07:41 PM
I don't need privacy
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cntkillme is not online. cntkillme
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03 Aug 2013 07:42 PM
idc if someone knows my IP, what are they going to do if all my ports are closed anyway c:
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RenderSettings is not online. RenderSettings
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03 Aug 2013 07:43 PM
I just use HTTPS everywhere. In the case of PRISM, it doesn't matter if you use Tor/VPN or not since you are still giving the 3rd party the same data, just from a different endpoint, and with a VPN they could trace it back with XKeyscore.
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BeatTheRawMeat is not online. BeatTheRawMeat
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03 Aug 2013 07:47 PM
@Render

Tor does work in the case of PRISM.
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itunes89 is not online. itunes89
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03 Aug 2013 10:37 PM
It's stupid. Like really, why do you need privacy. Using the internet, means everything you do can be traced..
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TheCrunchyMuffin is not online. TheCrunchyMuffin
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03 Aug 2013 10:39 PM
nope, closest thing to privacy i use is google incognito
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ColorfulBody is not online. ColorfulBody
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03 Aug 2013 10:47 PM
Everyone who uses a web browser should install HTTPS Everywhere on it. It's the best thing you can do as an user. As a web developer, the best thing you can do is make your website support TLS, and thus make users able to use HTTPS on it. As neither an user or a web developer, the best thing you can do is to encourage users to use HTTPS Everywhere and developers to support HTTPS.

HTTPS is the solution to a lot of problems. The remaining problems could be solved by making websites completely decentralized. The internet is itself already decentralized, and that is its biggest strength; that is why the internet can resist against projects like PRISM. However, websites and certificate authorities cannot, because they aren't decentralized. Companies have their own servers and that's why their websites can be compromised. If we created a system that would allow websites to be hosted in a peer-to-peer fashion (we're doing it for mail (BitMessage, RetroShare), search engines (YaCy), files (BitTorrent) and even for money (Bitcoin), so why not for websites?), then websites would become impossible to compromise and censorship would stop to exist on the internet, completely.

I mean, if Google becomes served from computers all around the world, how it China going to censor its results? How is the NSA going to intercept search data from it?

Cryptography is the solution to all data confidentiality problems, because confidentiality is the whole point of currency. What about we start using tools for what they were made for?
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blocco is not online. blocco
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03 Aug 2013 10:51 PM
I don't understand why people need so much privacy; what are we all scared of?
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blocco is not online. blocco
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03 Aug 2013 10:59 PM
To me, privacy is just something that insecure people want to avoid being judged. I may be wrong, or I may be closed-minded, but I want to hear what you guys have to say, so that I don't develop ideals that are plain insane.
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NINJAKID09 is not online. NINJAKID09
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03 Aug 2013 11:04 PM
I've got nothing to hide, so I don't worry about it.
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StealthKing95 is not online. StealthKing95
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03 Aug 2013 11:42 PM
Tor, but that's not to be discussed here..
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StealthKing95 is not online. StealthKing95
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03 Aug 2013 11:44 PM
@cntkillme

backdoors ;)
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Techboy6601 is not online. Techboy6601
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03 Aug 2013 11:44 PM
I'm not saying I disagree with what you're saying, but someone who I presented the issue to gave a very good argument:

If you say you've got nothing to hide, go to Google Dashboard and get your search history. Go to YouTube and get your video history. Go to PayPal or whatever bank you use and get your transaction history. Go to your doctor and ask for a copy of your medical history. Take everything you wouldn't share with a stranger. Put in all in a single pastebin and send it to everyone you know.

Take every photo on your computer and upload them to a photo sharing service, then share the link with everyone.

Do you feel violated yet? If so, this is why you need privacy.

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The above was written as part of an attempt to waste time.
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NINJAKID09 is not online. NINJAKID09
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03 Aug 2013 11:51 PM
@Tech I meant "Nothing to hide" as in, I have no reason to use a Proxy/whatever.
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coolbob44 is not online. coolbob44
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04 Aug 2013 12:08 AM
It is wrong for someone/a group to have the kind of power to know everything about you. Just because you have nothing to hide doesn't mean that others should have the right to view it at their leisure.

If you have nothing to hide, how would you like the government putting a camera in every room of your house?

Or, a more realistic example:

How would you like the administration of your school reading a note you wrote to a certain someone?

It's not right, and it shouldn't be allowed.
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TheCrunchyMuffin is not online. TheCrunchyMuffin
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04 Aug 2013 12:11 AM
privacy on the internet really is not that much of a big deal. when the gov starts censoring stuff though, that's something to make a ruckus about
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NINJAKID09 is not online. NINJAKID09
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04 Aug 2013 12:45 AM
@Cool I agree, everyone has a right to privacy.
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stravant is not online. stravant
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04 Aug 2013 03:20 AM
I don't use anything.

I will gladly trade my browsing information for free usage of various internet services.
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jrf2112 is not online. jrf2112
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04 Aug 2013 03:30 AM
I only use Disconnect and AdBlock. I don't enjoy being tracked by people. But privacy has it's reasons. I sometimes use Tor to bypass my school's blacklist, though.
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blocco is not online. blocco
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04 Aug 2013 04:11 AM
@Tech gladly
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SN0X is not online. SN0X
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04 Aug 2013 04:24 AM
wat Are an vpn Tor..... I Use Gogle cHrome on my Desktop and my tablet IE9 .... u gaiz r dum, Da Gov don't track u, They Don't Car'e. only Criminal, ,,,
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digpoe is not online. digpoe
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04 Aug 2013 04:51 AM
I rarely give out my IP any more as a case of being DDoSed (I blame AbsoluteLOL for that) because my dad has a short temper and can quickly get quite... stressed.
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19Josh19 is not online. 19Josh19
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04 Aug 2013 04:58 AM
HotSpot Shield + Incognito

I dont really need anything else
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digpoe is not online. digpoe
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04 Aug 2013 04:59 AM
You really know that Incogneto only stops your history from being seen?

It probably opens even more ways for Google to track you.
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