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Re: EvE Online makes me rage

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EpickMe is not online. EpickMe
Joined: 20 Oct 2009
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02 Aug 2013 04:56 PM
I fit my Vindicator with a poop ton of uber weapons n stuff, go outside, steal a can, and 5 Rifters jump me and kill me within like a minute.


WHY
MUST
I
BE
TERRIBLE
AT
THIS
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coolmanownz is not online. coolmanownz
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02 Aug 2013 04:57 PM
i would


my attempt to stay away from math as much as possible for this summer is still going
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Overrwatcher2 is not online. Overrwatcher2
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02 Aug 2013 05:17 PM
i spent months training skills and fitting a naga, and as soon as i finish it, test declares war on goons, and goons camp 6vdt 23/7.

i'm in test. and that naga is now gone. rip 150,000,000 isk and months of my time.
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mageofpower is not online. mageofpower
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02 Aug 2013 05:18 PM
I'm lost. What's a Naga? Who are goons Where is dvdt? What are rifters.
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Overrwatcher2 is not online. Overrwatcher2
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02 Aug 2013 05:29 PM
first off, from order of smallest to largest ships: frigate > cruiser > battlecruiser > battleship > capital ship > supercapital ship

the vindicator and naga are battleships

rifters are frigates

goons are one of the largest alliances in eve online, they control a giant chunk of space and lead a giant coalition of alliances. they originated from the somethingawful forums. they don't like fun.

test is one of the other largest alliances in eve online, they also control a giant chunk of space and used to lead their own giant coalition of alliances. they originated from reddit, and i'm part of test. we used to be best friends with goons but we got bored. we are in the process of slowly dying, and we are trying to make it as fun as possible.

6VDT-H was an old home system of test until they moved farther south to K-6K16, but until recently it was still the main system in the region. everything i owned was over there. recently the goons got in a giant fight over there (to the point where it made it to bbc news, that's how large it was), and took over the system. so, my stuff is gone. why do these star systems have such weird names? because they are null-security systems. low-sec and high-sec systems have actual names like jita, asakai, torrinos, amarr, etc as the most notable highsec names.

and cans are just storage containers floating in space.
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Overrwatcher2 is not online. Overrwatcher2
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02 Aug 2013 05:45 PM
and to explain what i mean by each of those systems being notable:

high sec - 1.0 to 0.5
low sec - 0.4 to 0.1
null sec - 0 to -1.0

jita - 0.9 security, THE most populated system at all times. it's a gigantic trading hub for everything, and i mean EVERYTHING. there are thousands of people in the system at once, whether in the station, sitting just outside duelling people, or just passing through. the goons once decided to go to jita and kill everyone, but CONCORD (space police, hates you for attacking in highsec) blew them all up as they did it. they still made a huge profit from increasing the demand for new ships, and thus increasing the price.

asakai - 0.3 security, wouldn't be notable if the 2nd largest battle of all time didn't start over there. it started with a small factional warfare fight where the goons wanted to crash into the party and kill everyone, but a titan (largest ships in the game) accidentally warped in by itself instead of jumping in with the rest of its friends. from that, a gigantic battle with 2000+ people started, and it lasted about 8 hours. i was there for the last 6, and it was awesome.

torrinos - 0.5 security (still highsec), this system isn't unique for the people there or any landmarks or events in history. it's unique because the next system in the line is E C-P8R. yes, you jump from 0.5 to -0.5. this makes it an excellent gateway for cfc members (goon coalition) to reach friendly territory safely.

amarr - 1.0 security, another really large trading hub for those too far away from jita.
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TheAsassin is not online. TheAsassin
Joined: 14 Nov 2009
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02 Aug 2013 05:59 PM
i don't wanna pay fifteen bucks a month for this
it sounds like i'd have to waste a hundred and twenty bucks before i actually get the hang of the game
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mageofpower is not online. mageofpower
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02 Aug 2013 06:00 PM
Ah... I... I'll just, walk away now with my dignity intact, blasted complex games.
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TheAsassin is not online. TheAsassin
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02 Aug 2013 06:02 PM
i'd like to say i love complex games
but dwarf fortress and EVE are 2deep4me
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mageofpower is not online. mageofpower
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02 Aug 2013 06:03 PM
i'd like to say i love complex games
but dwarf fortress and EVE are 2deep4me

I like complex games for the most part. But there is a fine line between "complex" and "spending 100 hours just learning the basics"
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Overrwatcher2 is not online. Overrwatcher2
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02 Aug 2013 06:06 PM
you get used to the complexity. unlike dwarf fortress, the controls and ui aren't terrible.

i started playing eve when i was 11, and i fully understood what was happening.

what's so difficult to learn about it, anyway? you right click stuff, and then you choose your action. want to lock onto a target to shoot it? want to warp there? want to orbit it? want to approach it? want to keep a specific distance? all are available from right clicking.

and after a few months when you make a ton of isk, you can pay for your subscription in-game. it's really neat.
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mageofpower is not online. mageofpower
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02 Aug 2013 06:07 PM
what's so difficult to learn about it,

Well, your basic "guide" of sorts did just take up 2 posts with like 5 paragraphs each.
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TheAsassin is not online. TheAsassin
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02 Aug 2013 06:07 PM
i like playing games that are complex enough that the player actually has to RTFM, but i'm coming to realize that i don't like "wiki games" where you literally need to have a walkthrough in the background in order to know what you're doing (looking at you, dwarf fortress).
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EpickMe is not online. EpickMe
Joined: 20 Oct 2009
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02 Aug 2013 06:07 PM
Goonswarm scammed me out of my Machariel.
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TheAsassin is not online. TheAsassin
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02 Aug 2013 06:08 PM
"and after a few months when you make a ton of isk, you can pay for your subscription in-game. it's really neat."
scamming other players is legal, right?
if so i'm set
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EpickMe is not online. EpickMe
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02 Aug 2013 06:10 PM
My god, the biggest ship I've gotten in EvE was a Carrier. I have been playing Eve for over 2 years, too.
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Overrwatcher2 is not online. Overrwatcher2
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02 Aug 2013 06:10 PM
i could have shortened it down to stuff like this:

goons are a large alliance run by the somethingawful forums.

test are a large alliance run by reddit.

6vdt-h was the former home of test, and where all my stuff was. it was recently taken over by goons.

jita is a large trading hub.

asakai had a gigantic battle happen there.

torrinos goes from high-security to null-security in one jump.

amarr is also a large trading hub.
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Overrwatcher2 is not online. Overrwatcher2
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02 Aug 2013 06:11 PM
and yes, scamming is 100% legal, and actually encouraged. pretty much everything is legal except for cheating/hacking, selling isk for real money, etc.
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TheAsassin is not online. TheAsassin
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02 Aug 2013 06:13 PM
i've been looking for a game to satisfy my starship captain fantasy itch
will EVE scratch that itch?
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mageofpower is not online. mageofpower
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02 Aug 2013 06:15 PM
Does Cpt. Kirk make an appearance?
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TheAsassin is not online. TheAsassin
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02 Aug 2013 06:17 PM
@mage-
that'd be the best namesnipe ever
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Overrwatcher2 is not online. Overrwatcher2
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02 Aug 2013 06:18 PM
it won't satisfy that spaceship captain itch, it's a different kind of game. sure, you do feel like you're piloting a spaceship, but not in the way of ordering crew around.
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mageofpower is not online. mageofpower
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02 Aug 2013 06:20 PM
Bam

http://www.roblox.com/User.aspx?ID=46449363

Yes, it's not a EVE online account but.. A namesnipe all the same.
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TheAsassin is not online. TheAsassin
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02 Aug 2013 06:24 PM
i'm not interested in babysitting crew members so much as exploring the galaxy and shooting stuff
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Overrwatcher2 is not online. Overrwatcher2
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02 Aug 2013 06:29 PM
i'd say eve online is best at just generally feeling like part of something bigger. kind of being a pawn in the grand scheme of things, or you work super hard for hours and hours and hours to be on top, and instead boss around the pawns. it's not so much about exploration and shooting as it is being part of a virtual society of 300,000 people who think different, speak different, live different, and react different.

it's the ultimate social simulator.
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