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Re: Don't ban people for posts blocked by bots

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flatline115 is not online. flatline115
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02 Aug 2013 11:13 AM
Really, if nobody can see it why does it matter?
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rayblon is not online. rayblon
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02 Aug 2013 11:15 AM
A bottled account is compromised. The less accounts at a blackhatter's disposal the better.
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Mikenberg123 is not online. Mikenberg123
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02 Aug 2013 11:15 AM
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AwesumWeegeez is not online. AwesumWeegeez
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02 Aug 2013 11:16 AM
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flatline115 is not online. flatline115
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02 Aug 2013 11:18 AM
I'd actually like a mod to give a viable reason to disprove this idea.
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rayblon is not online. rayblon
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02 Aug 2013 11:26 AM
All blocked or deleted posts are qeued for moderator review. There's already up to a 72 hour delay with report processing as it is. This will make it no easier.
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Mikenberg123 is not online. Mikenberg123
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02 Aug 2013 11:27 AM
I have a theory, if the player swears and swear then he might one day stumble upon a non-blocked word. Banning/Warning them reminds them that swearing is not nice, lets change this idea to only warn for bot blocked words?
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flatline115 is not online. flatline115
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02 Aug 2013 11:27 AM
Just remove blocked posts from review?
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flatline115 is not online. flatline115
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02 Aug 2013 11:28 AM
"Banning/Warning them reminds them that swearing is not nice, lets change this idea to only warn for bot blocked words?"

A warning is fine, but I've gotten banned for 1-2 days because, of a subject that got blocked.. (I didn't realize that you couldn't talk about it).
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rayblon is not online. rayblon
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02 Aug 2013 11:32 AM
Then it would bog everything down. ROBLOX makes it known that offsite links lead to scams. It is NOT their problem if somebody falls for a scam AFTER THEY MAKE IT KNOWN THAT ALL OF THEM ARE SCAMS.
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flatline115 is not online. flatline115
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02 Aug 2013 11:34 AM
"Then it would bog everything down."

By just blocking posts and removing workload off the moderators it would bog everything down? K.

"ROBLOX makes it known that offsite links lead to scams. It is NOT their problem if somebody falls for a scam AFTER THEY MAKE IT KNOWN THAT ALL OF THEM ARE SCAMS."

I agree.
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rayblon is not online. rayblon
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02 Aug 2013 11:38 AM
The bots work as applications, they browse the catalog and post comments. One person with the browsing volume of ten people will do that to the site en mass.
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rayblon is not online. rayblon
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02 Aug 2013 11:39 AM
The moderators ban bots and reduce server stress and bandwidth usage.
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flatline115 is not online. flatline115
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02 Aug 2013 11:40 AM
"The bots work as applications, they browse the catalog and post comments"

And?

" One person with the browsing volume of ten people will do that to the site en mass."

The current system hasn't stopped all that;

OMG ROBLOX TOLD ME HOW TO GET OBC FOR LIFE *Random Crap Here*.
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rayblon is not online. rayblon
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02 Aug 2013 11:41 AM
Actually, you'll notice that if you report them they'll get banned. It's slow, but guaranteed.
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flatline115 is not online. flatline115
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02 Aug 2013 11:43 AM
SO the end result is that the current system does nothing as the more serious users ( who are not idiots) have to report it rendering the current system of that irrelevant and useless.

Although I am just talking about the forum posts not comments.
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Treticle is not online. Treticle
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02 Aug 2013 11:43 AM
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rayblon is not online. rayblon
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02 Aug 2013 11:46 AM
The location and browsing volume are to be read together. I'm pointing out that someone exhausts their computer's processing power to run these bots. They leave the computer to do its thing, perhaps even for weeks at a time. If the accounts aren't banned, they'll just keep running the whole time.
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rayblon is not online. rayblon
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02 Aug 2013 11:47 AM
The current system allows users to say what's inappropriate as they see fit.
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flatline115 is not online. flatline115
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02 Aug 2013 11:49 AM
" I'm pointing out that someone exhausts their computer's processing power to run these bots. They leave the computer to do its thing, perhaps even for weeks at a time. If the accounts aren't banned, they'll just keep running "

Yes but your fallacy is that the current system stops them from commenting for a duration of what? 60 seconds? They never get banned unless they get reported. Hence the current system is irrelevant and useless.
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rayblon is not online. rayblon
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02 Aug 2013 11:51 AM
It does work, I've seen it in action for four years.
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flatline115 is not online. flatline115
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02 Aug 2013 11:52 AM
"The current system allows users to say what's inappropriate as they see fit."

My problem with the current system is that I get banned for posts on the forums that get blocked for having an inappropriate subject - if it got posted I could see why but, it got blocked so it should have no effect beyond a warning telling somebody that said subject shouldn't be talked about.

It is improbable to tell all of what roblox considers inappropriate. Which is why I do not see why people get banned for it. Now if the blocked posts has swear words in it then it is obvious why but, if not and it is just a genuine topic then there shouldn't be any end consequences past what I mentioned.
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rayblon is not online. rayblon
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02 Aug 2013 11:56 AM
Swear words are nothing compared to other, more sensitive subjects. All posts need to be safe for their respective audience. This isn't going to happen anyway. If you don't get ten pages in the first hour, your suggestion is doomed to fail.
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flatline115 is not online. flatline115
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02 Aug 2013 12:00 PM
By sensitive I mean political subjects that are reasonable (not like adult only subjects) I am saying if the topic is genuine and not (like x-rated content) then there shouldn't be a ban for it.

If there is just a bunch of swearing and it is obvious what this person was doing then it is reasonable,
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Crazace is not online. Crazace
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02 Aug 2013 12:27 PM
if they just block and carry on, the person would keep doing it
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