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tomosias is not online. tomosias
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29 Jul 2013 09:59 AM
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29 Jul 2013 10:43 AM
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Corridan is not online. Corridan
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29 Jul 2013 10:51 AM
did buddha command the killing of babies also?
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RubiksCubix is not online. RubiksCubix
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29 Jul 2013 10:51 AM
Good for you.
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stealthyninja588 is not online. stealthyninja588
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29 Jul 2013 11:52 AM
Pro-choice?
Do you let the babies you kill choose whether they get to live or not?
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SileeBabookh is not online. SileeBabookh
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29 Jul 2013 12:10 PM
It is commanded by the Buddha to kill children too I guess
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29 Jul 2013 12:10 PM
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sinii is not online. sinii
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29 Jul 2013 12:48 PM
"Pro-choice?
Do you let the babies you kill choose whether they get to live or not?"

Do you let the chickens and cows you kill for meat choose whether they get to live or not?
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sinii is not online. sinii
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29 Jul 2013 12:57 PM
How about the criminals who get the death sentence? How about the white cells that come out of you when you're done wаnking?
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ElysiumThoughts is not online. ElysiumThoughts
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29 Jul 2013 01:05 PM
Criminals = Committed crimes and killed people. They shouldn't go free for taking other lives and taking advantage and exploiting others and the system.

Those white cells aren't suddenly going to morph into a baby anytime soon, are they? You're not going to wake up one day and realize there is actually a growing kid inside you, right? They're not in a state of development, last time I checked.
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ElysiumThoughts is not online. ElysiumThoughts
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29 Jul 2013 01:07 PM
I'm not sure about being pro-life or pro-choice. In 1st world countries. pro-choicers shouldn't be talking. Most people will be able to sustain any newborns. In 3rd world countries? No such thing as birth control! Families keep growing and growing. At some point, governments will have to start taking action. Poorer families keep getting kids, which they cannot sustain.
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sinii is not online. sinii
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29 Jul 2013 01:24 PM
Well? Those white cells could become live humans one day, but instead, you decide to kill all of them. And why don't you give the criminals a choice? Did they say they wanted to die?

Oh, did you let that chicken you ate choose to live or not?
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ElysiumThoughts is not online. ElysiumThoughts
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29 Jul 2013 01:29 PM
We don't know when those white cells will become humans, do we? They're not even developing. They're just lying there, waiting for who knows when. You do know when a baby is growing and do know when it will pop out.

Criminals know the consequences of their crimes. They know about what will happen if they commit it.

Chickens? Last time I checked, we eat chickens to survive. Like how chickens eat worms to survive, and so on. Having a baby won't kill you. If it is extreme, go ahead, get rid of it. But doing it out of pleasure and then killing it off should not be allowed.

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sinii is not online. sinii
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29 Jul 2013 01:35 PM
So you won't let those millions of white cells become humans? Instead you're taking away all their lives?

If they all were wise enough not to do it, they wouldn't do it? Look, they're mentally hurt if they kill people. If you are that mentally damaged, you do stupid things that you'll regret. They wouldn't do it if they had healthy minds.

Why aren't the chickens allowed to have a choice though? Do you think they're happy with you killing them? Why don't you let cannibals eat you, then? You aren't allowed to have a choice in that! They need your meat to survive! Last time I checked, we аbort fetuses to survive. Like how old men take medication to survive, and so on. Having a baby can kill you and harm you. EVERY аbortion is for a life-saving reason. EVERY.
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wertysas is not online. wertysas
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29 Jul 2013 01:36 PM
Those white cells also pretty much carry the data to bring the new life, there has to be an egg in the first place, and those white cells just contain information on how the baby will turn out.

I also hope you understand that killing animals is essential for the survival of humans. Not many humans would have survived without the pelts of animals and in many places it was necessary to kill to get meat as a means of food as plants didn't survive in many places, so if you think animals have some higher thinking, go ahead.

Also, death sentence isn't something I believe we should use. An eye for an eye make the whole world blind. Anyways, I support Elysium in this argument.
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ElysiumThoughts is not online. ElysiumThoughts
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29 Jul 2013 01:42 PM
So you won't let those millions of white cells become humans? Instead you're taking away all their lives?

We don't know when they'll be born. What we do know is when a baby will be born and will pop out.




If they all were wise enough not to do it, they wouldn't do it? Look, they're mentally hurt if they kill people. If you are that mentally damaged, you do stupid things that you'll regret. They wouldn't do it if they had healthy minds.

What? No. You need to please insanity then, and then they do a psychological check-up. This is probably a joke too.




Why aren't the chickens allowed to have a choice though? Do you think they're happy with you killing them?

No, of course not. But like I said, like they eat worms, we can eat them. I think it's part of the food cycle anyway.



Last time I checked, we аbort fetuses to survive. Like how old men take medication to survive, and so on. Having a baby can kill you and harm you. EVERY аbortion is for a life-saving reason. EVERY.


People do it to get rid of the inconvenience of raising children, even if they have the money to sustain them and nurture them. You're now obviously joking and trying to rile me up.


Look, it's just getting annoying doing this again and again. You start saying stupid things, idk why, it's probably funny for you. It's not cool.
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sinii is not online. sinii
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29 Jul 2013 01:42 PM
But you're not letting them become humans. You are preventing them from living. It's the same with аbortion.

Nowadays, vegetarians live on protein shakes and salads. They are surviving, or else there wouldn't be any of them. Wertysas, a cannibal needs to eat your flesh because he's starving, should you have a choice? No? He's just allowed to eat you? Well, he needs to survive, doesn't he?
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megaluigi24 is not online. megaluigi24
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29 Jul 2013 01:42 PM
I think that only one white cell would make it to become a human.
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ElysiumThoughts is not online. ElysiumThoughts
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29 Jul 2013 01:44 PM
Lifespan of a chicken isn't very long anyway. If they weren't eaten by us, they'd be eaten by wolves or other predators. They're part of the natural order.

Humans aren't like that. They actually have more of a purpose and more ideas and thoughts.
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wertysas is not online. wertysas
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29 Jul 2013 01:46 PM
If it was down to the survival of the human race, and this cannibal needed to eat me, yes, he could. Besides, those white cells aren't living organisms yet, and you aren't killing anything, you just aren't producing a child.
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ElysiumThoughts is not online. ElysiumThoughts
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29 Jul 2013 01:47 PM
I'm not even sure Sinii is serious. For some reason, he just enjoys making us babble on like idiots while he watches. Ignore his posts.
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sinii is not online. sinii
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29 Jul 2013 01:51 PM
"We don't know when they'll be born. What we do know is when a baby will be born and will pop out."

You have prevented thousands of babies from living.
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"What? No. You need to please insanity then, and then they do a psychological check-up. This is probably a joke too."

Wow? Do you expect a drunk person to give sober consent to things? Wow... Okay, a drunk guy drunkenly hits on someone he doesn't like and grоpes him. Do you think his sober self won't regret it? Do you think his sober self would approve of it and do it again?
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"No, of course not. But like I said, like they eat worms, we can eat them. I think it's part of the food cycle anyway."

So we can eat whatever we want and it doesn't have a choice! Let's eat other humans and fetuses then! They can't have a choice in whether they're eaten or not. That's OUR choice. A human eats chickens to survive, chickens eat worms to survive. So we can eat humans to survive.
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"People do it to get rid of the inconvenience of raising children, even if they have the money to sustain them and nurture them. You're now obviously joking and trying to rile me up."

Yes, and it's to survive. Do you think that 13 year old girl can take care of both herself and the baby?
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"Look, it's just getting annoying doing this again and again. You start saying stupid things, idk why, it's probably funny for you. It's not cool."

Tu quoque.
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wertysas is not online. wertysas
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29 Jul 2013 01:58 PM
I don't think you're getting what he's saying about insanity. If someone with a legitimate brain problem commits a crime, say, murder, they would get a lesser sentence if they plead insanity, because, they aren't in their right mind. Plenty of normal people with out brain problems commit murder every year, and they'll get the normal sentence for their crime because their brain is working functionally and they understand the consequences.
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ElysiumThoughts is not online. ElysiumThoughts
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29 Jul 2013 01:58 PM
You have prevented thousands of babies from living.

When we don't even know if they will make it, if they will survive and which one will make the child. All we know is they're capable, whereas an egg and that cell are developing until 9 months when a fully grown baby will appear.



So we can eat whatever we want and it doesn't have a choice! Let's eat other humans and fetuses then! They can't have a choice in whether they're eaten or not. That's OUR choice. A human eats chickens to survive, chickens eat worms to survive. So we can eat humans to survive.

But chickens will be eaten by wolves, or cats (yes, cats. My uncles chickens get eaten by cats) or other predators! They don't have a choice then, either. That's the predators choice. Humans will actually have more of a purpose and development cycle rather than the simple survival instinct of a chicken.


Yes, and it's to survive. Do you think that 13 year old girl can take care of both herself and the baby?

Yes she'll obviously survive. There's more than a 13 year old girl than a baby. There's the 13 year old girl's parents, other relatives and friends.


Wow? Do you expect a drunk person to give sober consent to things? Wow... Okay, a drunk guy drunkenly hits on someone he doesn't like and grоpes him. Do you think his sober self won't regret it? Do you think his sober self would approve of it and do it again?

Well do you think he doesn't know what will happen when he's drunk? We all know how things get out of control when a guy gets drunk. They're liable to get punished for their crime. And drunk guys don't usually kill people.Groping is different from actually killing someone. A drunk case of someone killing someone else is probably uncommon, but I'm not here to debate about that. You've done a great job of changing the topic.
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ElysiumThoughts is not online. ElysiumThoughts
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29 Jul 2013 02:01 PM
Tu Quoque

Unlike you, I'm not bringing up topics unrelated to the thing we're currently talking about and leapfrogging from cases. From death penalty, to insanity. From insanity to being drunk. Really?
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