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Re: Why didnt native americans have civi

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KnightOfArabia is not online. KnightOfArabia
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24 Jul 2013 09:44 PM
there were in europe, south america, asia, and africa but why not north america
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Jalatte is not online. Jalatte
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24 Jul 2013 09:46 PM
They were too religious.
Religion ruins technology. (I'm a Christian)
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KnightOfArabia is not online. KnightOfArabia
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24 Jul 2013 09:47 PM
Europe Asia Africa and South America were very religious too
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CoolDude80967 is not online. CoolDude80967
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24 Jul 2013 09:48 PM
They had different tribes which is basically a bunch of different civilizations. It was a more religious thing and also don't think of religion as gods in this situation they believed in lots of spirits which is religious in a way.
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KnightOfArabia is not online. KnightOfArabia
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24 Jul 2013 09:50 PM
Tribes aren't really civilizations
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CoolDude80967 is not online. CoolDude80967
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24 Jul 2013 09:51 PM
If you think about it Africa was like America in those times in lots of ways. They had tribes and those tribes had different religions and beliefs and they were scattered across the land.
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KnightOfArabia is not online. KnightOfArabia
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24 Jul 2013 09:53 PM
yeah but Africa had egypt and timbuktu
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CoolDude80967 is not online. CoolDude80967
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24 Jul 2013 09:54 PM
Very true, I did't say they were identical though...
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pepper0 is not online. pepper0
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24 Jul 2013 09:54 PM
Isolation.
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CoolDude80967 is not online. CoolDude80967
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24 Jul 2013 09:57 PM
@Pepper Oh, yes! They didn't really have contact with other places like Europe while Africa was trading with Europe already. It was when Columbus found the Native Americans and starting trading with them it started a civilization. Asia was trading with Europe and almost everything was trading with Europe but not America. Thanks Pepper, I finally get it!
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24 Jul 2013 09:57 PM
You may say they were just tribes. but the native americans made advances in medicine, that the europeans didnt have. and if you think about it, what is the liklihood of the same invention being thought of twice. and so the europeans might have discovered guns, but the aztecs had mad ehuge advances in architecture
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24 Jul 2013 10:01 PM
@Bud I am very sorry but that grammar was off! Also, they can have advances in medicine but that barely had an effect on the trading system that would have made them a civilization they were still tribes the only leader was a chief and that was of the tribes. They didn't have democracy or even autocracy, which made them just tribes.
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KnightOfArabia is not online. KnightOfArabia
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24 Jul 2013 10:04 PM
no tribes can have democratic systems and many tribes are autocracies since they are ruled by one supreme leader
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bud390 is not online. bud390
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24 Jul 2013 10:04 PM
The aztecs and mayans were not just a tribe. and the iroquis made a treaty which the name escapes me, but it was the foundations of many treaties to come they made a confederation. so that in my opinion counts as a civilization
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CoolDude80967 is not online. CoolDude80967
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24 Jul 2013 10:06 PM
We are talking about Native Americans, like the ones in North America.... Also, yes I didn't think about them having one supreme leader making them a autocracy nice point king.
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KnightOfArabia is not online. KnightOfArabia
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24 Jul 2013 10:06 PM
And it did have effect on trading we still use their medicine today the native Americans gave the world many things
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CoolDude80967 is not online. CoolDude80967
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24 Jul 2013 10:08 PM
Very good points knight also I refereed to you has king before sorry I forgot your username.
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bud390 is not online. bud390
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24 Jul 2013 10:09 PM
Native american includes central and south america
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24 Jul 2013 10:10 PM
and as i said. The iroqouis were a confederation, which would kinda count as a country, which is also the basis of a civilization
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CoolDude80967 is not online. CoolDude80967
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24 Jul 2013 10:12 PM
You are making really good points and I respect you for that, I will not say what I am thinking in my head because it's very impolite .
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bud390 is not online. bud390
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24 Jul 2013 10:13 PM
Oh i dont mind. I say you cant change if you dont know whats wrong with you
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VideoRyan is not online. VideoRyan
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24 Jul 2013 10:17 PM
Native Americans were perfectly ok with living a simple life. They didn't need sprawling empires, that just wanted to connect with nature and enjoy life.
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bud390 is not online. bud390
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24 Jul 2013 10:19 PM
That is also true. Alot of their culture was based off living off the land, living simply and praying to their ancestors. They werent the get rich quick people
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CoolDude80967 is not online. CoolDude80967
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24 Jul 2013 10:23 PM
I'm sorry Bud did you just imply something was wrong with me and that I need to change. Hmm, wait you didn't imply it you bluntly said it. I am keeping words that are impolite from this thread but I believe if I repress any more it will be unhealthy. Also, yes the Native Americans were fine they were doing great. I couldn't say what would happen later in time if people didn't come from Europe and changed their whole lifestyle and did what they did.
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24 Jul 2013 10:25 PM
They were too religious.
Religion ruins technology. (I'm a Christian)
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