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Re: Why George Zimmerman should have been found guilty

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alHakim is not online. alHakim
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24 Jul 2013 01:11 PM
The Stand your ground law,according to Florida,is a law that gives a victim the right to use fire arms in order to defend themselves. I dont agree with that law but that has nothing to do with the FACTS. The reason Zimmerman should have been found guilty, is because of the fact that he violated Trayvon Martin and murdered him. Alot of people who approve of Zimmerman's acquittal are quick to say something to the degree of "Trayvon Martin was a thug anyway,he almost killed Zimmerman,Zimmerman had the right to use self defense." But what people fail to realize is that Zimmerman PURSUED Martin. He WENT AFTER him. That alone should of threw the stand your ground law out the window because zimmerman INITIATED the contact by following Martin and getting out of his car.

Trayvon Martin is a skinny kid,if you've seen the pictures of him and is in no way intimidating,especially to a grown man.Zimmerman on the other hand, is a GROWN MAN and BIG too. BY LAW,the stand your ground law should apply to Martin because HE could of felt intimidating by the fact that zimmerman was pursuing him. Zimmerman wanted to play vigilante AND GOT THE BEAT DOWN OF HIS LIFE.

Now hypothetically speaking,lets say im following someone I have a vendetta against. And i pursue him and get beat up, and shoot because im afraid i might die. Who should be granted self defense? The person who pursued the victim and initiated contact with the victim and intimidated the victim? Or the person who was being pursued and fought out of SELF DEFENSE(stand your ground law). If i get beat up,thats my own fault,i didnt have to pursue my enemy in the first place. SAME THING WITH ZIMMERMAN. Zimmerman saw Martin who didnt even know Zimmerman was following him and approached him. If a person chases after someone,gets beat down,and shoots his enemy,that person SHOULDNT be granted self defense because he intiated the contact and provoked the incident.

People say this is not a race case and race has nothing to do with it,but here's where the law is heavily flawed and just shows the outright racism of the justice system. A woman who also lives in Florida was abused by her husband and shot off a "warning shot" at her husband after she said her husband was beating her. Marissa Alexander is her name if you don't believe me. Now,BY LAW,she should be protected under the stand your ground law because her husband was abusive and was beating her,but she was DENIED protection. Why you might ask? Her husband was abusive after all. She was a BLACK WOMAN. Woman already get treated terribly in American and the fact that she was black made things even worse. Now heres where it gets even worse:

Ralph Wald who is now 70 found his wife cheating in the living room and shot and KILLED her and yet HE WAS ABLE TO USE THE STAND YOUR GROUND LAW in his defense! How was he not found guilty? Because he was white? See a trend?

Hispanic/White man who claims hes white murders unarmed black kid:Found Not Guilty

Black woman shoots at ceiling to warn husband:20 years in prison

White man shoots wife:Not guilty.

In all incidents, the stand your ground law was done correctly. In the end, the American justice system is corrupt and race plays a huge part in every day court cases.

My main point is that zimmerman should have been found not guilty because what he did was not out of self defense because he proved Martin in the first place.

Heres another video explaining the incident and his views: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyI_VBkHOD8&list=FLS_cYMr_gRkU9lc6IBNjbMg
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UnrealizedPotential is not online. UnrealizedPotential
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24 Jul 2013 01:12 PM
op i hate to say it
but
nobody will read this
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alHakim is not online. alHakim
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24 Jul 2013 01:13 PM
Its a worth a try,i need to vent my feelings about this case,ive been holding it in too long.
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DoctorContingency is not online. DoctorContingency
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24 Jul 2013 01:13 PM
it was George's job to protect the neighborhood, as he was neighborhood watch

if Trayvon hadn't attacked him, he wouldn't have been shot

and stop using racism to "prove" your point
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24 Jul 2013 01:14 PM
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Mirthless is not online. Mirthless
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24 Jul 2013 01:14 PM
tl;dr


stand your ground is final


zimmerman shot treyvon in self defense



case closed.

=[~Official Atheist Liberal Brony Thing of OT~]=
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alHakim is not online. alHakim
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24 Jul 2013 01:14 PM
Oops ment to say GUILTY.
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UnrealizedPotential is not online. UnrealizedPotential
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24 Jul 2013 01:14 PM
op
I'm black
I still think it was Trayvon's fault.
Consider that for a moment.
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linkrocker1 is not online. linkrocker1
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24 Jul 2013 01:15 PM
read the whole thing, and there were some pretty good points in here.
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GargantuanSpiders is not online. GargantuanSpiders
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24 Jul 2013 01:15 PM
Zimmerman was a hero and model citizen. Trayvon was just another criminal.
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BiologicalIntent is not online. BiologicalIntent
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24 Jul 2013 01:16 PM
Why is doesn't matter

The case is over
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24 Jul 2013 01:16 PM
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alHakim is not online. alHakim
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24 Jul 2013 01:16 PM
if Trayvon hadn't attacked him, he wouldn't have been shot
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Did you read my post? Zimmerman PURSUED Trayvon. If Zimmerman never had followed Martin and approached him,Martin wouldnt have tried to fight Zimmerman. THAT is self defense. Also i forgot to add that the jury was ALL WHITE FEMALES.
NO BLACKS AND NO MALES.
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GargantuanSpiders is not online. GargantuanSpiders
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24 Jul 2013 01:17 PM
Alhakim most of them had children. Trayvon should have run home or called the police.
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DoctorContingency is not online. DoctorContingency
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24 Jul 2013 01:18 PM
"Did you read my post? Zimmerman PURSUED Trayvon. If Zimmerman never had followed Martin and approached him,Martin wouldnt have tried to fight Zimmerman. THAT is self defense. Also i forgot to add that the jury was ALL WHITE FEMALES.
NO BLACKS AND NO MALES."

Zimmerman pursued him out of curiosity. You don't think Trayvon was acting suspicious at all? He had no reason to attack Zimmerman if he wasn't doing anything wrong.

Also, that last part isn't racist or s3xist at all.
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UnrealizedPotential is not online. UnrealizedPotential
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24 Jul 2013 01:18 PM
@op
Your point?
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24 Jul 2013 01:19 PM
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alHakim is not online. alHakim
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24 Jul 2013 01:22 PM
Trayvon should not have been acting like a tough guy by beating Zimmerman's head into the ground. Act like a thug, die like a thug.
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None of you are understanding that the stand your ground law should apply to Martin. Like it should of applied for Mellisa and NOT Ralph. Zimmerman was told NOT TO FOLLOW by the police but yet people seem to "forget" about that. Like i said before,had Zimmerman just called the police instead of trying to bring justice by himself,a murder would have not happened. Not to mention Trayvon was shot from the back,execution style.
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UnrealizedPotential is not online. UnrealizedPotential
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24 Jul 2013 01:22 PM
also op,why would trayvon be out at midnight and not expect some stuff to go down
where i live,going out at midnight is close to a death sentence
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24 Jul 2013 01:23 PM
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alHakim is not online. alHakim
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24 Jul 2013 01:23 PM
Trayvon should have run home or called the police.
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Wow do people read? BY LAW,TRAYVON HAD THE RIGHT TO DEFEND HIMSELF. Zimmerman was the one trying to play vigilante and pursued Martin even after he was told not to,so that throws the stand your ground law out the window for Zimmerman.
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24 Jul 2013 01:24 PM
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UnrealizedPotential is not online. UnrealizedPotential
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24 Jul 2013 01:25 PM
@op
Just going out on a limb here and assuming you're black. If so, then you're basically playing the "ALL BLACKS SHOULD BE INNOCENT AND ALL WHITES ARE GUILTY" card.
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alHakim is not online. alHakim
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24 Jul 2013 01:26 PM
You didn't reply to my post refuting the notion that trayvon was a skinny kid when this happened. Nice.
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Even if he wasnt? Still self defense on Martin's part. Zimmerman was the one who jumped out the frying pan into the fire. If i pursue someone even out of curosity,the person feels threatened and beats me,and i shoot him,thats not self defense on my part because i obviously wanted to do something to the kid in the first place. Not to mention he was a carrying a gun when he approached Martin so he was obviously gonna do something to him all just because he had hood on.
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