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Re: [TGI] v [VAK] Poll

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starwars686 is not online. starwars686
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31 Oct 2012 10:27 PM
Which clan is better? My vote goes to TGI.

Discuss which clan is better in this thread..

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TntBoy2001 is not online. TntBoy2001
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31 Oct 2012 10:29 PM
Unpredictable.

There's only one way to find out.



~the ONE and ONLY muscle moose
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lBrokenHearts is not online. lBrokenHearts
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31 Oct 2012 10:31 PM
Tie.

Ex VAK v. VAK

Though TGI COULD edge VAK
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lBrokenHearts is not online. lBrokenHearts
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31 Oct 2012 10:32 PM
Matters which troops you're using, and if I trained them or not. ;)
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Neo1035 is not online. Neo1035
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31 Oct 2012 10:33 PM
I've fought both. TGI is a ton more of a challenge. They apply more communication and they are more united. While VAK does have the elitist appearance and do train significantly, it's not anything compared to TGI. At least the TGI I knew before (it could be different).

The VAK right now stands no chance regardless of that, but even the older VAK would have trouble with TGI.
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UnstableMonster is not online. UnstableMonster
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31 Oct 2012 10:43 PM
TGI's Bricketers dream of VAK, sooo

TGI, k?
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ToberDam is not online. ToberDam
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31 Oct 2012 10:45 PM
Based off their failure raid attempts on us, I would say us,

However we have not called a raid on them, and they claim that those raids were disorganized and what not.

Therefore nothing to go off of which says who is better.
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robb12 is not online. robb12
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31 Oct 2012 10:50 PM
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PoketSniperOps is not online. PoketSniperOps
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31 Oct 2012 10:53 PM
Probably TGI but, one way to find out.
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kremon is not online. kremon
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31 Oct 2012 10:54 PM
There is no "Better" group, however both excel in different points, for instance:

VAK has better organization, and a slightly higher discipline level.

TGI has better tech, and slightly better high ranks.

A highway to OT was installed, here's some change for the toll.
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FELOOx is not online. FELOOx
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31 Oct 2012 11:03 PM
VAK has better fighter, organization, egos, leader(when online).

TGI has a few good highranks, numbers, and thats pretty much it

"One of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics is that you end up being governed by your inferiors." - Princess Celestia
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RECLAIM3R is not online. RECLAIM3R
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01 Nov 2012 01:57 AM
VAK for sure.
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calebbishop is not online. calebbishop
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01 Nov 2012 01:59 AM
TGI.

I've been in both.
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masterofkev is not online. masterofkev
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01 Nov 2012 02:04 AM
VAK

TGI has one of the most unfairest bases in the clan world.
SMO is 1000 times more fair when compared to the stronghold.
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Zertrex is not online. Zertrex
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01 Nov 2012 02:42 AM
oof

not these threads again

honestly, tie.

TGI are ex VAK, meaning they know eachother's moves.

Since brickster was a former hr in vak, he taught vak his skills. Now brickster is teaching TGI his skills.

TGI also know other skills since 60% of TGI are ex VAK

But VAK was taught those skills first, so they have mastered them. TGI were taught late, and not fully mastered them yet. But with TGI's teamwork and communication, it's what makes it a tie
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InvictusRex is not online. InvictusRex
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01 Nov 2012 02:43 AM
VAK.


They don't base their recruitment off of a jumping puzz- oh wait, they do....
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ToberDam is not online. ToberDam
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01 Nov 2012 02:59 AM
"VAK

TGI has one of the most unfairest bases in the clan world.
SMO is 1000 times more fair when compared to the stronghold."

I don't know if you're lacking in the head or trolling. You should try raiding.


"TGI are ex VAK, meaning they know eachother's moves. "

Possibly true, however tactics change and people adapt to what suits their style

"Since brickster was a former hr in vak, he taught vak his skills. Now brickster is teaching TGI his skills."

TGI also know other skills since 60% of TGI are ex VAK

"But VAK was taught those skills first, so they have mastered them. TGI were taught late, and not fully mastered them yet. But with TGI's teamwork and communication, it's what makes it a tie"

This is a very...loose statement, meaning that this could be proven either way. The main body of the vaktovian fighting force is VAC, which are poorly maintained and looked upon. Vaktovians themselves were not always there before Brickster and I left. There are always new people, so this whole arguement of vaktovians mastering their skills is rather funny, because depending on those skills they could work wonderfully, or not at all.
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pumpedpwnage4life54 is not online. pumpedpwnage4life54
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01 Nov 2012 03:01 AM
funny how star's in TGI after VAK.

TGI's like a farm were all the Ex-VAKs that rage quit run to
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rbb3393 is not online. rbb3393
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01 Nov 2012 03:39 AM
Vaktovian Domination!

A good war would be Ex-VAK vs. VAK. (Ex-VAK would win)
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ToberDam is not online. ToberDam
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01 Nov 2012 03:41 AM
So I just went to SMO, and about died on the inside.

This is a base comparison

@SMO:
-Raiders have 2 spawning areas, one rapid fire assault rifle that's actually pretty good.
-THE GUNS CAN SHOOT THROUGH WALLS. Just zoom out, press gun into wall, and suddenly the rays shoot through. It's like Vaktovians love to wallshoot now.
-Vaktovians Spawn with Grenade, Shotgun, and I believe sniper? Not sure what was the long range 2 shotter.
-Due to the new raider spawn, Vaktovians can officially keep the raiders trapped in their area no matter what. Vaktovians spawn directly where the raiders need to go, therefore it's basically a brick wall of troops. No matter how many times you smash your head into the wall, you ain't breakin' it.
-Shotguns one shot kill even if one beam hits you
-The gun vendors inside the base have been removed, so raiders have no way to level the playing field when it comes to guns. No raider shotguns qq

@Stronghold:
-The only differences between raiders and TGI is that TGI officers get radio and pistol, and TGI have a somewhat smaller distance to walk to the bomb compared to raiders. That's it.
-At the moment, we're using roblox gear guns, which means that anyone could actually buy the gear, practice with it, and actually have some good results later.
-Raiders, if numerous enough and skilled enough, can actually have a base of their own so that they don't get spawn camped by silly grenades and one shot kill shotguns.
-Defenders/holders of the fort have 2 big 'ol death arties of doom that shoot cannonballs. Come on, ladies love cannons.


We have no issues playing on a level playing field, but look at SMO. It's like trying to climb a mountain with your teeth


That's just bases guys. ._.
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jetpackboy is not online. jetpackboy
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01 Nov 2012 03:42 AM
To be fair, both groups (especially VAK) are very good.
Considering most of TGI are ex-VAK, they will obviously (of course, I mean, what do you expect) be good. However, not all of TGI are elitist skilled members.

In VAK, we have a small number of ACTIVE (cough cough, TGI) members who are very skilled. I'd say we just about have the edge, considering we've never been defeated.
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ToberDam is not online. ToberDam
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01 Nov 2012 03:44 AM
Yes, and to be honest, neither have we Jetpackboy.

But Vaktus is never willing to prove what he boasts and actually war with us. And honestly after raiding that base, I'd rather wait until you guys get a raidable base first.
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rbb3393 is not online. rbb3393
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01 Nov 2012 03:46 AM
VAK would win the war no doubt, but if it was all the old Vaktovians (Pulse121, Dommel101, HellSlayer, Dologan, ect.) they would win.
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jetpackboy is not online. jetpackboy
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01 Nov 2012 03:50 AM
> I'd rather wait until you guys get a raidable base first.

Our base is raidable, but only if you have skill. Often us Vaktovians hold training raids on ourselves (EG. VAC vs VAK or vice versa).

They sometimes win, because they are cool.
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ToberDam is not online. ToberDam
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01 Nov 2012 03:52 AM
Skill against guns that are made to wallshoot, and one shot kill? That's a bit absurd don't you think?
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