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Re: [[//:_Lotus Promotion v2 - Proposal Information_://]]

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shinypikachu1234 is not online. shinypikachu1234
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05 Jul 2013 01:17 PM
{Table of Contents}
[1] - Introduction to Lotus v2 -\\
[2] - What is Lotus v2? -\\
[3] - How will Lotus v2 work? -\\
[4] - What makes this system better than previous systems? -\\
[5] - Conclusion -\\

[1] - Introduction to Lotus v2 -\\

My Marshal (BlackHawk100) and myself (shinypikachu1234) have both come to mutual agreement that there are multiple and grievous faults within the two promotion systems currently battling on the poll. For starters, the Lotus system is extremely confusing, over complicated, and intimidating to some of our newer members. The new promotion system (or rather the old one), people can achieve promotions far too quickly, and ranked up because they did well in a single event (maybe they just got lucky?). The new system also bloats the chance of bias in our promotions (for example, the best friend of a high rank getting promoted unfairly). So we thought about it, and we came up with a new idea - why not merge the best ideas of both promotion systems, and combine it into what we have named Lotus v2.

[2] - What is Lotus v2? -\\

Lotus v2, in the simplest of terms, includes some of the brightest ideas from both promotion systems, and combining them into one promotion system. It will ensure that promotions aren’t impossible to earn, yet not so easy that you can advance at an overly quick rate. We hope that it will also minimize the impact of bias on our promotions.

An important part of this idea would take the two most common types of prestige (strength and knowledge) and group them into one type of prestige; this new type would be called, quite basically, prestige. You would earn this new prestige the same way you would have earned strength prestige and knowledge prestige, and there will be innovative new ways to earn this single type of prestige too!

The new prestige can be earned by doing numerous and varied things that you can do in Lotus v2. The following are just some of the most rudimentary ways that you may earn it.

[//_Training
[//_Raiding
[//_Defending our fortresses and those of our allies
[//_Raiding and training with allies as an official joint action
[//_Act with maturity, honor, and respect when you post on the wall. Try to help others!
[//_Show leadership in your actions
[//_Using common sense in your words and actions regarding the Roblox Assault Team

With all of these ways of gaining the new prestige, this system ensures that it is easier to gain prestige if you are not a combat expert or knowledgeable about the history of the Roblox Assault Team. It also makes ranks more valuable in the fact that you don’t acquire an entirely new rank from just training, raiding, or defending well once.

Another type of prestige that the elder Lotus system had (many Coordinators or above are familiar) is leadership prestige, also known by the abbreviation Lp. With Lotus v2, leadership prestige will be completely scrapped. Once rank deletion is implemented on Roblox, most of the former “Milestone Ranks” will be eliminated from the Roblox Assault Team rank spectrum. With that said, there will be three “Middle/Milestone” ranks.

[//_Supervisor
[[//_Justicar
[[//_Vindicator

Once a member of the Roblox Assault Team reaches the rank of “Supervisor” they are able to host weekly unofficial training sessions or raids (via the group wall, not the group shout) to try to stand and out to an Admiral. If an Admiral comes to their training session, it is therefore made ‘official,’ and prestige can be given. After your official training session is completed, the Admiral that supervised (this Admiral must supervise at least two events) will give you a report on how well you led your training session. The report can be of three kinds - great, neutral, or terrible. The reasons for the report type and report as a whole document is for the Supervisor in question to learn how they can improve, instead of just patting him/her on the back saying “two Lp - good training.” The more positive reports you have, the greater the chance you’d be chosen to become a Marshal-in-training. This is the role the Infocenter III will play in all of this - it will be used to log reports as well as the new prestige.

There are many unlisted ways in which Supervisors can try to stand out to an Admiral. The possibilities are endless.

Once they see that you are ready, as well as a successful number of reports that make you deem worthy to the Admiral, you will then be promoted to “Justicar.” At this rank, the Admiral will train you on the ins and outs of the job that they face in their department. Once they are fully trained to work as a sub-department member, they will be promoted to Marshal, with permission of the department head.

If an Admiral already has 2 Marshals, he/she can choose to try to replace one of them if they aren’t doing a sub-par job. In doing so, if he/she can find a better candidate, one of their Marshals can, and will be replaced. If the Marshal is chosen to be replaced, he/she will be demoted to “Vindicator.” At this rank, Admirals can choose to auto-promote them to their Marshal, as they would have already gotten enough good reports to become a Marshal once more. However, if they don’t have ANY good reports, and any reports at all (post reform), then they will be demoted to Supervisor, not Vindicator.

Once the Great Admiral finds an Admiral’s Marshal to be a worthy choice to work in said department, he/she can choose, with the Grand Admiral’s approval, to promote the Marshal to an Admiral position and to work within his/her department.

[4] - What makes this system better than previous systems? -\\

This system implements the best of both of our previous systems whilst being easy to understand for new members of The Roblox Assault Team.

The previous Lotus System was extremely confusing and complex for newer members of the clan to understand due to the large range of prestige types. With many of these prestige types being moved into one and Leadership prestige being disbanded, we have now made a system which can easily be followed by all members, no matter their rank. Adding onto this, Lotus v2 is still giving members of the clan the ability to be promoted via their great efforts and it is sticking to a system which a number of members have grown to understand since the start of CJ’s Era.

Along with this, the hard efforts which members have put in during the last 8-9 months will not be lost. By default, their Users in the Infocenter III shall begin with the minimum number of prestige for their current rank within the clan. Doing this ensures members do not lose all of their efforts and do not have to re-earn prestige. Moreover, members will not get an entire promotion for completing one simple task, instead they will be required to put in effort in order to gain their promotions and prestige.

[5] - Conclusion -\\

With this new promotion guide, there could be a lot of new possibilities for the future of RAT. Once this system does, we as the hi-com will have power to enforce some of these ideas.

With all of this said, we do ask if you support this system to vote for ‘Lotus’ through the SparrowCorporation Vote page. If you have and comments and suggestions on the hopefully future guidelines of RAT, feel free to do so and post a reply.

-RAT Immortals Overseer Warfare Operative Admiral shinypikachu1234
-RAT Immortals Manager Honor Marshal BlackHawk100
-RAT Immortals Manager Honor Marshal charmander2000
-Grand Admiral Johnathan Sparrow
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charmander2000 is not online. charmander2000
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05 Jul 2013 01:17 PM
Approved.
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DragonDX1 is not online. DragonDX1
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05 Jul 2013 01:17 PM
you should listen to the outcry of the officers instead of being idiots

VI VI VIII VIII VIII IV VI IX IX III
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cj10127 is not online. cj10127
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05 Jul 2013 01:18 PM
Approved

-Grand Admiral Johnathan Sparrow
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05 Jul 2013 01:19 PM
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iIikeyou is not online. iIikeyou
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05 Jul 2013 01:21 PM
so basically
combine kp and sp, get rid of Lp, rewrite leadership guide, get rid of milestone ranks


what about my ideas? c:
http://www.roblox.com/Forum/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=104166235


lets bake a potato
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scaperoblox is not online. scaperoblox
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05 Jul 2013 01:25 PM
So there will be just Prestige instead of sP and kP?
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Mike82098 is not online. Mike82098
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05 Jul 2013 01:26 PM
Highly support and approve.
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shinypikachu1234 is not online. shinypikachu1234
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05 Jul 2013 01:28 PM
@Scape, Prestige is basically a combination of KP and SP, except for the answering of stupid history questions
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SilentDemons is not online. SilentDemons
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05 Jul 2013 01:28 PM
Hmm.
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JordanRaptor is not online. JordanRaptor
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05 Jul 2013 01:30 PM
Support.
+Good Work
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LordMarcellus is not online. LordMarcellus
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05 Jul 2013 01:32 PM
I WANT LOTUS/LOTUS 2.0 not the new system, it is soooooooooooo basic and I think instead of going to a whole new system the Councilium should just reform or use Lotus v.2 and TEACH the low ranks at he mansion maybe about the promotion system.
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LordMarcellus is not online. LordMarcellus
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05 Jul 2013 01:33 PM
the*
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drels is not online. drels
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05 Jul 2013 01:33 PM
i still like the new system better
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SlayerJones is not online. SlayerJones
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05 Jul 2013 02:17 PM
Except that these guys aren't progression, and that the old system once again is way better an less complicated.

leedle lee
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scaperoblox is not online. scaperoblox
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05 Jul 2013 03:36 PM
Support.
I like how some ranks would be removed and kP and sP are going to be put into a simple point.
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awesomerobloxme is not online. awesomerobloxme
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05 Jul 2013 03:37 PM
Lotus will win
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ROBLOXVETERAN1 is not online. ROBLOXVETERAN1
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05 Jul 2013 03:43 PM
Still not perfect, yet the best compromise.

☠ \M/ ☠
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05 Jul 2013 07:56 PM
I have something to add.
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05 Jul 2013 07:57 PM
approved

~that guy
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Divinus is not online. Divinus
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05 Jul 2013 08:03 PM
Support+
Good work, sounds great.
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06 Jul 2013 12:00 PM
Approved.
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09 Jul 2013 12:27 AM
hi
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