mummymark
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| 04 Jul 2013 09:37 PM |
| Thoughts? I think it's okay. Could add a little more information instead of what the method/event etc. Is. |
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Oysi
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mummymark
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| 04 Jul 2013 09:43 PM |
Why Prefer Wiki?
I do actually. I joined for the community and back then I thought they would provide more information |
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| 04 Jul 2013 09:46 PM |
| You should avoid LuaLearners. It is a very bad place to learn from. More information about this here: mark-otaris dot github dot io slash _publications slash 2013 slash 07 slash 03 slash problems-with-lualearners.html |
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1waffle1
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Usering
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| 04 Jul 2013 10:13 PM |
Finally everyone agrees that LuaLearners is a bad resource.
#forgetyou |
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| 04 Jul 2013 10:34 PM |
I thought it was good, so I checked to make sure, and their beginner tutorials are only bound to confuse.
The Unwise Wizard of Scripters has spoken. |
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mew903
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| 04 Jul 2013 10:36 PM |
I was a writer for LuaLearners before they deranked everyone. It was meh. |
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Joalmo
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| 04 Jul 2013 10:38 PM |
| Usering, your avatar looks like Dave Grohl. |
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LuaWeaver
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| 04 Jul 2013 10:47 PM |
Mark, I fixed the issues you mentioned in there. Like you should've, mister guy-who-just-became-a-writer.
while obamacare() do benefitMiddleClass() end --LuaWeaver |
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| 04 Jul 2013 10:50 PM |
| I think they're great, the community, the staff, but the teachers, they don't teach and I have to read the tutorials, but I don't like reading... ._. I'm just there to talk. |
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1waffle1
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| 04 Jul 2013 10:50 PM |
| The first thing anyone needs to understand is how indexing works, algebra, and how function calling and event listeners work. Everything else can just be picked up. |
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LuaWeaver
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| 04 Jul 2013 10:50 PM |
" but the teachers, they don't teach"
We don't have teachers.
while obamacare() do benefitMiddleClass() end --LuaWeaver |
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| 04 Jul 2013 10:51 PM |
| @luaweaver because Justin fired everyone |
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mummymark
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| 04 Jul 2013 11:18 PM |
> Mark, I fixed the issues you mentioned in there. > Like you should've, mister guy-who-just-became-a-writer.
Ah, thanks. I was going to correct them at some point, but, you see, it takes time to do that, and I already have a lot of things to do.
> The first thing anyone needs to understand is how indexing works, algebra, and how function calling and event listeners work. Everything else can just be picked up.
I disagree. The only single thing that it is important to understand is expressions and statements. Once you've understood that, you don't need to understand anything else. |
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| 04 Jul 2013 11:24 PM |
It sounds like you guys are somehow suggesting the WIKI is better.
Disregard females, acquire currency. |
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Oysi
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NVI
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| 04 Jul 2013 11:48 PM |
Oh my god, LuaLearners is bad. Especially when their filth makes it higher up in search engine rankings. It took me forever to find a full list of Lua's datatypes in plaintext exactly how type(x) would return them. LuaLearners came to the top and gave me crap about Roblox "types".
It's unacceptable, I wish we could get it banned from Google. Until then I'll just keep blocking it from my search results. |
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1waffle1
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| 04 Jul 2013 11:52 PM |
> The first thing anyone needs to understand is how indexing works, algebra, and how function calling and event listeners work. Everything else can just be picked up.
I disagree. The only single thing that it is important to understand is expressions and statements. Once you've understood that, you don't need to understand anything else.
Expressions are essentially algebra. Tables and loops are essentially calculus. All you need to understand more than calculus (which is already asking a lot from a kid) is the syntax. Then you apply this math to the environment (but for the case of Roblox, it's mostly just manipulating the environment; setting values to things that are derived from math but are not actually mathematical, so what else they really need to learn is every tiny detail in the wiki.) And after six years you end up like us (unless you gave up, which you probably did.) |
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mummymark
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777MrEpic
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| 05 Jul 2013 12:08 AM |
THAT IS WHERE I LEARNED FROM LOL IF YOU WHERE IN SCRIPTERS BEFORE 6/1/13 YOU GET IT |
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| 05 Jul 2013 12:37 AM |
It's a neat idea, but honestly it hasn't been executed the way it should have been. I suppose everyone did their best, but at the end of the day it simply isn't a very good way of learning. There needs to be an on-site forum for the lessons site so people can get help in minutes. There also needs to be a way of voting on the content so the writers know what they need to improve upon.
Coolbob was walking me through using the lessons site the other day after I had a problem finding the exams. If you need to walk someone like me through your site, you really should rethink the way you're presenting your content. I can't imagine how enormously difficult it must be for the average user to navigate the site. It also doesn't help that whoever developed it aligned things such as copyright notices to the bottom of the screen, so it isn't obvious that there's more to the page until you actually look at your scroll bar (which most people just don't do). It took me a full ten minutes to find one exam, and they only have two which is a real problem when they have like 20 lessons. The new format was pushed way, way, way too soon.
I also noticed that he often shifted the blame to me while he was walking me through it, as if it were somehow my fault that I didn't understand his instructions. IMHO, blaming your users for your lack of instruction is no way to run a website.
On the way they present their material, I agree with waffle. They present their material the way one would present a wikipedia page - step by step, no sections intertwine, and you can walk away knowing everything about the content and nothing about the art. |
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| 05 Jul 2013 12:45 AM |
"it is much better"
yeahhh.... no.
you rarely hear anyone say they "learned from the wiki", do you? i thought we already had that discussion. the wiki is NOT for learning to script, it's for reference. the wiki is a horrid source to find tutorials, and you know it.
Disregard females, acquire currency. |
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