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Re: Group funds can be withdrawn.

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milocricket is not online. milocricket
Joined: 01 Apr 2011
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03 Jul 2013 09:32 AM
I think the group owner should be allowed to withdraw group funds. I have a group that has a lot of robux in it's funds, but I can't do anything with it so it just sits there.


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TecmagDiams is not online. TecmagDiams
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03 Jul 2013 11:07 AM
There are some ups and downs to doing this;

Pros; often groups don't need advertisement. I think that group owners, and members of rank with permission, should be allowed to distribute funds to members. Imagine a popular clothing group that could actually PAY content makers working for it, allowing an organized group, with a group store, that can pay for it's own advertising, and reward members. Heck, even just for a small group like mine where maybe just me and a staff member (such as additional builder if I group up with someone) would be able to earn money from it, that would be a wonderful little addition.

Cons; people are going to assume it's about greed. It's not, infact even if a user wants to gather huge amounts of donations and then give himself a nice bonus, I don't see why that shouldn't be allowed. HOWEVER I think that pulling money from a group should be taxed. It adds incentive to SPEND group money on things like advertising, etc, because you lose a portion of it if you distribute it in any way other than group sending.
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legobuilder97 is not online. legobuilder97
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03 Jul 2013 11:47 AM
I agree, withdrawal should be implemented.
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ROBLOXBloxxerDJL is not online. ROBLOXBloxxerDJL
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03 Jul 2013 11:56 AM
Support, but needs a 2% tax.
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TecmagDiams is not online. TecmagDiams
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03 Jul 2013 12:00 PM
Sorry but a 2% tax is not an incentive to keep the funds in the group and use it for group purposes. Large groups could easily raise tons of funds, and there is simply much more incentive to take that for yourself than let it sit as group funds. I honestly couldn't support this idea without a tax of AT LEAST 15%, but I would aim higher than that, at a personal choice of 30%.

A 30% tax is enough lost money that if you take it out of the group, than later decide to advertise the group, you should have left it in the whole time. It also makes money more valuable for the group, because it's "worth less" to take it out of the group than for the group to find uses for it.
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ROBLOXBloxxerDJL is not online. ROBLOXBloxxerDJL
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03 Jul 2013 12:00 PM
30% AWWW HELL FREAKING NO!

10% is reasonable.
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TecmagDiams is not online. TecmagDiams
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03 Jul 2013 12:03 PM
30% is the tax on selling an item. A tax for pulling money from a group should be no less than that. 10% sounds more like the number of someone who is more interested in sapping money out of groups than making good groups and thus being able to profit from them.
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milocricket is not online. milocricket
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03 Jul 2013 01:04 PM
You can't advertise with robux in a group. The only thing you can use robux for in a group is ranks, but there is a limit to how many ranks you can get in a group.



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sharkie4ever is not online. sharkie4ever
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03 Jul 2013 01:17 PM
Support, but I don't believe there should be a fee.
If you earned it, why can't you have all of it...?
I run a building group and paying them would be a lot easier if I could just do it through the group funds.
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werty9988 is not online. werty9988
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03 Jul 2013 01:21 PM
no support
group funds are restricted to certain uses that are guaranteed to benefit the group

personal funds are usable for anything
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kingmatt2 is not online. kingmatt2
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03 Jul 2013 01:22 PM
1. No fee. Its your money, where would the extra go?
2. The withdrawn will only be in place until ROBLOX finds something to do with the money.
3. The Paying members is a good idea. but it might lead to people saying:
I will only join if you give me 10R each week and blah blah blah.
4. The no fee is a good idea. The intire reason for fees in the real world is TAXES. if there was a fee where would the extra money go? No where it just sits there where noone can touch it. Wasted. Just like all the fees from the limiteds. but the limiteds have a good reason.
The reason you gameus for the fee is stupid.
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werty9988 is not online. werty9988
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03 Jul 2013 01:25 PM
@kingmatt

there's this thing called inflation

you might want to read about it
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kingmatt2 is not online. kingmatt2
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03 Jul 2013 01:25 PM
With grammar***




1. No fee. It’s your money, where would the extra go?

2. The withdrawn will only be in place until ROBLOX finds something to do with the money.

3. The Paying members is a good idea. but it might lead to people saying:
I will only join if you give me 10R each week and blah blah.

4. The no fee is a good idea. The entire reason for fees in the real world is TAXES.

if there was a fee where would the extra money go? Nowhere it just sits there where no one can touch it. Wasted. Just like all the fees from the limiteds. But the limiteds have a good reason.

The reason you gave us for the group funds fee is stupid. WHY NOT LET ROBLOXIANS MAKE MONEY>?!
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glowpod is not online. glowpod
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03 Jul 2013 01:28 PM
They'll eventually do this, but it'll take a 30% tax.

~GP
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kingmatt2 is not online. kingmatt2
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03 Jul 2013 01:30 PM
I won take any tax. Where would the tax go? To no one? In a good econoney you just dont burn money.
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glowpod is not online. glowpod
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03 Jul 2013 01:31 PM
The tax goes to roblox, to prevent major inflation. There are taxes on selling stuff, trading, pretty much every way of making money except BC.

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kingmatt2 is not online. kingmatt2
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03 Jul 2013 01:32 PM
Still what does ROBLOX do with it? Nothing>
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glowpod is not online. glowpod
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03 Jul 2013 01:33 PM
Roblox keeps it to PREVENT MAJOR INFLATION. Look it up.

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kingmatt2 is not online. kingmatt2
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03 Jul 2013 01:36 PM
I know what it is I say if there is major inflation just raise the daily R and T.
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Epianofire is not online. Epianofire
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03 Jul 2013 01:38 PM
That's a good idea, I have group funds for my group but it just stays there, I can't really do anything with it; it's pretty much pointless at this point(lol irony)
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glowpod is not online. glowpod
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03 Jul 2013 01:39 PM
@King
That's on the WNTS, so they won't add more robux or less =/

~GP
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TecmagDiams is not online. TecmagDiams
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03 Jul 2013 02:01 PM
"I won take any tax. Where would the tax go? To no one? In a good econoney you just dont burn money."
Ahahaha! Oh, ho, ah... ahhh... That's funny. Why? Because it's true, but you COMPLETELY ignored a much more prominent factor. In a good economy, you don't PRINT money. Printing money causes inflation, dropping the value of currency and is the easiest way to cause an economic crash. Want to see the effects of printing money? Just take a look at post World War I Germany. Without funds to pay their war reparations they resorted to printing money, which crashed their economy, so they printed more money, and made it worse.

"I know what it is I say if there is major inflation just raise the daily R and T."
Congratulations, you just said the worst possible thing to do when inflation occurs. PRINT MORE MONEY! Inflation can and is easily and quickly caused when MORE money is introduced to the market. If your way of fighting raising prices is to INTRODUCE EVEN MORE...

And you do know ROBLOX already has taxes on things you sell right? It's not your money, it's theirs, and they have the right to tax transactions, as they already do with most.
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milocricket is not online. milocricket
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03 Jul 2013 05:08 PM
@werty You can't advertise with robux in a group. The only thing you can use robux for in a group is ranks, but there is a limit to how many ranks you can get in a group.


TRY READING!



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milocricket is not online. milocricket
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03 Jul 2013 06:26 PM
bump.


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zachzach74 is not online. zachzach74
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03 Jul 2013 06:31 PM
@king

No offense, but maybe you should read up a bit more on inflation and economics in general.
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