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Re: Clueless as to how Master Scripter should be ran

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Tenal is not online. Tenal
Joined: 15 May 2011
Total Posts: 18684
02 Jul 2013 09:59 AM
A lot of people want weekly activities and whatnot but this group was meant to be a title, right? The name isn't even plural!
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BAUER102 is not online. BAUER102
Joined: 03 Apr 2010
Total Posts: 5936
02 Jul 2013 10:01 AM
how did you get it
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Usering is not online. Usering
Joined: 18 Aug 2012
Total Posts: 10281
02 Jul 2013 10:02 AM
MNN gave it to it @bauer (sorry Tenal I don't what you are)

#forgetyou
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thedestroyer115 is not online. thedestroyer115
Joined: 19 Dec 2010
Total Posts: 11546
02 Jul 2013 12:36 PM
@Tenal
Let me explain why the group is not plural.
A long time ago, MNN made the group only for himself, to have 'Master Scripter' below his total post count on the forums. Soon, other people wanted to join. So he let them in. Then the group became more than just a title, but an accolade, to prove to others your skill.

You should make the group a dictatorship so everyone leaves and comes to Proficient scripter and Extraordinary Scripters.
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Legend26 is not online. Legend26
Joined: 08 Sep 2008
Total Posts: 10586
02 Jul 2013 12:39 PM
@thedestroyer,

If I leave master scripter, I doubt I'll be going to yet another scripters group. They're all dead, dying, or change to frequently in my experience.
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thedestroyer115 is not online. thedestroyer115
Joined: 19 Dec 2010
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02 Jul 2013 12:42 PM
@Legend
Proficient scripter led by Mark, is not dying. Neither is my group, Extraordinary Scripters.
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Tenal is not online. Tenal
Joined: 15 May 2011
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02 Jul 2013 01:29 PM
@destroyer
I've been on this forum three years longer than you have.. what makes you think I don't know?
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Maradar is not online. Maradar
Joined: 06 Mar 2012
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02 Jul 2013 01:32 PM
@Tenal
... How- How- How is that possible
Just saying, did your join date change? Or perhaps you had an account before Tenal?
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Tenal is not online. Tenal
Joined: 15 May 2011
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02 Jul 2013 01:33 PM
http://www.roblox.com/User.aspx?ID=7330671
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Maradar is not online. Maradar
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02 Jul 2013 01:35 PM
@tenal
I lol'd for some reason.
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jacob2233 is not online. jacob2233
Joined: 23 Aug 2007
Total Posts: 723
02 Jul 2013 01:54 PM
I've been lurking for a very long time, longer than most all of you, but I used to hang out in OT all the time. I still have no clue what goes on behind the closed doors of "Master Scripter" and the scripters Skype group, but I never really brought awareness to myself either...

As for leadership, keeping a neutral environment, where no one is better than anyone else (since it's "Master Scripter" anyway) and no one should argue with others no matter what the problem is. Though, from my knowledge of lurking, seems the group is divided over where 1waffle1 should stand, and also seems some people are focused more on individualism than collectivism, which, for a group, is bad.

Suggestions, though most of you will take them blantly, stop focusing arguments on an individual level and more on a group level. If MNN has a problem with 1waffle1, doesn't mean the rest of the group has to. Second, do more as a group, like script projects or sharing scripts/libraries and what not. Anything to advocate helpfulness to other group members.

To be honest, it sounds like the group is going to fail at somepoint soon. It's a lot of individualists in a collectivist environment, more people wanting to rely on themselves than on others, except for conversations or occasional interaction. It'd take a true, confident, and wise leader to turn everyone from an individualistic perspective to more of a group focus, so good luck becoming/finding a leader like that...
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billiland is not online. billiland
Joined: 11 Nov 2008
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02 Jul 2013 02:12 PM
"A lot of people want weekly activities and whatnot but this group was meant to be a title, right? The name isn't even plural!"

The group is whatever you make of it.
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coolbob44 is not online. coolbob44
Joined: 26 Nov 2009
Total Posts: 1649
02 Jul 2013 02:35 PM
The simple fact that Tenal owns Master Scripter has made the group worthless. It's ruined and it's never going to go back to the way it was.

But hey, you could always join LuaLearners
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billiland is not online. billiland
Joined: 11 Nov 2008
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02 Jul 2013 02:41 PM
You are wrong for being bias. A group owner means absolutely nothing but raised permissions for Tenal. If he messes up, in any way, we have the option to leave instantly. Until that day comes, the group will be just as valuable in name.
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thedestroyer115 is not online. thedestroyer115
Joined: 19 Dec 2010
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02 Jul 2013 02:41 PM
^
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thedestroyer115 is not online. thedestroyer115
Joined: 19 Dec 2010
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02 Jul 2013 02:43 PM
1) I was necrobumped, I was '^'ing towards coolbob.
2) The group owner does matter.
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LuaWeaver is not online. LuaWeaver
Joined: 28 Jun 2013
Total Posts: 213
02 Jul 2013 02:44 PM
Justin, that's a terrible statement, honestly. Just because a person you dislike leads it makes it worthless?

Tenal is going for more positive change when it comes to working as a group to decide entries, everyone equal.

while obamacare() do benefitMiddleClass() end --LuaWeaver
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thedestroyer115 is not online. thedestroyer115
Joined: 19 Dec 2010
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02 Jul 2013 02:44 PM
Not necrobumped, ninja'd.

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Maradar is not online. Maradar
Joined: 06 Mar 2012
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02 Jul 2013 02:45 PM
LuaWeaver is right.
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billiland is not online. billiland
Joined: 11 Nov 2008
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02 Jul 2013 02:45 PM
No it does not. The only reason you believe other wise is because you are using silly bias thoughts against him. I think it is rather foolish of you. If anything happens that declines the status of the group, we would just leave? He has literally no power over keeping us there or not... so why does it matter? You are thinking like an angry eight year old.
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thedestroyer115 is not online. thedestroyer115
Joined: 19 Dec 2010
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02 Jul 2013 02:47 PM
"Justin, that's a terrible statement, honestly. Just because a person you dislike leads it makes it worthless?"
--> Past behaviors have not proved Tenal worthy enough to lead Master Scripter.

"Tenal is going for more positive change when it comes to working as a group to decide entries, everyone equal."
--> How do you know? You're not in the group. Master Scripter is dead.

"while obamacare() do benefitMiddleClass() end --LuaWeaver"
--> While I support that snippet of code, please leave politics out of the forums, let alone code that will crash a game.
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Tenal is not online. Tenal
Joined: 15 May 2011
Total Posts: 18684
02 Jul 2013 02:48 PM
@billiland
But the clan was originally meant to just be a title.

@cool
tbh I'm quite confused as to how the group got worthless when all I did was exile some people who I know can't script, accept some people who I know can script, and change the logo into something of humor for roughly 20 minutes.
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billiland is not online. billiland
Joined: 11 Nov 2008
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02 Jul 2013 02:49 PM
He isn't leading anything. The administrators have all the same privileges he does. He is just the current host.
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thedestroyer115 is not online. thedestroyer115
Joined: 19 Dec 2010
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02 Jul 2013 02:49 PM
"No it does not."
--> Yes, it does.

"The only reason you believe other wise is because you are using silly bias thoughts against him."
--> 'Bias' thoughts? I am not being biased. He has not proven in any way that we is worthy to own a group of that level.

"I think it is rather foolish of you. If anything happens that declines the status of the group, we would just leave?"
--> Tenal declined the group status after posting various and quite frankly, stupid, comments on the description.

"He has literally no power over keeping us there or not... so why does it matter? You are thinking like an angry eight year old."
--> You're apparently offended too, and are trying to deny my fair arguments.
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Tenal is not online. Tenal
Joined: 15 May 2011
Total Posts: 18684
02 Jul 2013 02:50 PM
"Past behaviors have not proved Tenal worthy enough to lead Master Scripter."
Past behaviors have proved thedestroyer115 just barely knows how to make a string.reverse() function from scratch... without tables!

"How do you know? You're not in the group. Master Scripter is dead."
You're not in it either and you've been butthurt about it since you got exiled.

"While I support that snippet of code, please leave politics out of the forums, let alone code that will crash a game."
Err, no. It won't crash a game because obamacare() returns nil (because it hasn't been defined) and benefitMiddleClass() is a function that hasn't been created.
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