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| 01 Jul 2013 02:21 PM |
Everyone knows that we exist. We know many things about our known universe, and there are still many more questions dwarfing our discoveries. However, what causes everything we know? 3 Months ago, scientists at the Large Hadron Collider made by CERN discovered the Higgs Boson, currently being referred to as the "god particle". However, what created the Higgs Boson, and what created the Higgs Boson's creator, and so on?
Now, lets move on to a topic that will lead us closer to a theoretical conclusion. Today, astrophysicists believe that the big bang was a freak occurrence that was created from nothing. Wait a minute. How could anybody think in their right mind that the universe started itself from nothing? think of it like this: you live in a hotel room in New York City, and you accidentally drop a chicken egg on the hard wood floor, which and the chicken egg eventually racks, but how can it drop the egg in the kitchen if there was no gravity on the earth?
Yes, the egg dropping is the freak occurrence, however the gravity on the earth is what caused it. Same for the universe: the big bang was the freak occurrence, but what caused the big bang to happen?
I do believe that there is more than one universe, but how can it be described? I came up with two ideas: it can be like a cluster of universes of all sizes and shapes, or like a fractal, with the same image reappearing either at a smaller or larger scare that goes on forever both ways. Each style has a separate theory: In a cluster, there is something small that has no name, and has no description and cant be called energy, particles, an element, or even things! It is found between universes, and creates them as well. This purest form is more pure than god, that without it, not even nothing would exist!
For the fractal multiverse theory, there is no such purest form, the main cause is smaller universes stuck together like a brane in a larger universe and that larger universe is a part of another brane in an even larger universe, and so on, meaning that the multiverse will last forever.
However, will we ever know the cause of our existence?
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| 01 Jul 2013 02:22 PM |
| Why did you feel the need to post an entire article |
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Skellor
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| 01 Jul 2013 02:23 PM |
"Today, astrophysicists believe that the big bang was a freak occurrence that was created from nothing."
the big bang theory makes no concessions for the pre-existing state of the universe at all, it doesn't claim that there was nothing before
and if i remember correctly there was a state that existing before the big bang |
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| 01 Jul 2013 02:24 PM |
Well, this is very interesting. I actually do support the multiverse theory, I makes more sense to me. |
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| 01 Jul 2013 02:25 PM |
*it makes more sense
Dang it! |
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| 01 Jul 2013 02:26 PM |
| Does anybody have their own theory on this topic? |
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Skellor
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| 01 Jul 2013 02:28 PM |
"Does anybody have their own theory on this topic?"
well if anything i don't support the multiverse theory
i haven't really seen any proof to back it up and so far the big bang theory to me is the best idea we have |
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| 01 Jul 2013 02:28 PM |
Yes, I do.
My theory is: I don't know what the hell you're saying
And I don't give a damn
I am Bill Gates |
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| 01 Jul 2013 02:29 PM |
| If the multiverse doesn't exist, why does our universe exist? |
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| 01 Jul 2013 02:30 PM |
"If the multiverse doesn't exist, why does our universe exist?"
does it need a reason to exist?
and how does the multiverse theory compensate for your problem of a lack of a reason |
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| 01 Jul 2013 02:30 PM |
Let me read it.
I didn't read it, really.
I thought I learned my lesson from ForTheGlory, so I passed.
I am Bill Gates |
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| 01 Jul 2013 02:31 PM |
It had to much energy in it and theirs nothing no other way to get out or transfer energy other than to blow up the massive energy release and heat caused the universe to form it then cooled down and became matter and the energy that was heaver than the rest made a gab in space and time and made dark matter and the energy with no mass became dark energy and the matter and energy that had the right mass became what we know and love today. |
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| 01 Jul 2013 02:35 PM |
| hmmm, interesting, but what created that energy is what this topic is about! but good idea :). |
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| 01 Jul 2013 02:38 PM |
"but what created that energy" Matter can be turned into energy Energy can be turned into matter |
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| 01 Jul 2013 02:40 PM |
Okay, I just read it, and here's my actual theory.
The multiverse could have somehow created the speck. No one could possibly know how the speck created the universe, and there is no proof of any multiverse data. In other words, complex math, including theoretical math, can show no proof that something else created the speck. The Big Bang is a THEORY. There is no proof that the universe was created due to the gigantic explosion, and the evidence you suggest says that for a fact the universe was created by the Big Bang. If it was NOT created by the Big Bang, then the multiverse extended. Basically, you can either have the multiverse theory, or the Big Bang theory. You cannot, CANNOT, have both.
I think the Big Bang exploded due to nuclear fusion, not heat, even though that speck was one trillion degrees Fahrenheit. But if I think the Big Bang exploded that way, then that means I think the Big Bang exploded AT ALL.
Therefore, the multiverse does not exist, and the universe was created some other way. But scientists can't dig into HOW the spec was created because nobody knows if the speck existed or not.
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| 01 Jul 2013 02:46 PM |
| You have a point, but if the multiverse does not exist, why do we exist? it is like the sun is the only star with planets, and it is not; there are HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS of stars with them. |
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| 01 Jul 2013 02:49 PM |
| Come up with an idea of a purest form |
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| 01 Jul 2013 02:51 PM |
| Okay, you got me there. But I still do not believe in the multiverse, I believe there is only one universe. |
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| 01 Jul 2013 02:56 PM |
| you must be thinking of the cluster idea. Reread the fractal idea, it is like mini universes making up a larger universe, and so on! |
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| 01 Jul 2013 03:01 PM |
"Everybody knows we exist".
How do we know we exist? For all I know, you and everything else in the universe is a product of my imagination. Perhaps, I am imagining typing on a computer. But, I believe it IS REAL, because my imagination perceives it as real. |
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| 01 Jul 2013 04:37 PM |
| I agree with you. Everything exists beyond us, however it the way that we receive it that is the difference |
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| 06 Jul 2013 02:57 PM |
| Do you agree with my theory? |
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