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Re: The Messiah was supposed to come in 1973

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thepit44 is not online. thepit44
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29 Jun 2013 07:27 PM
In the Torah, it says that Israel will control from the Nile to the Euphrates.

In 1973, the United Arab Republic (UAR) surprise attacked Israel. Israel quickly took out their army and trapped what was left of Egypt's. Israel then had the chance to conquer all the way to Cairo (The Nile) and Syria (To the Euphrates)

If Israel did this then there would be Messiah today.
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pepper0 is not online. pepper0
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29 Jun 2013 07:28 PM
So the messiah is among us.
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Corridan is not online. Corridan
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29 Jun 2013 07:28 PM
no
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thepit44 is not online. thepit44
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29 Jun 2013 07:29 PM
@Corridan

Yes
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MaximumMinimizer is not online. MaximumMinimizer
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29 Jun 2013 07:32 PM
is it that siberian man claiming to be jesus that i saw on vice?
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megaluigi24 is not online. megaluigi24
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29 Jun 2013 08:03 PM
If Isræl did that then they would be in trouble.
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SileeBabookh is not online. SileeBabookh
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29 Jun 2013 08:06 PM
Nobody would attack Israel they would go to western countries and go all "hey holocaust happened gib money pls" if they were ever truly threatened
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megaluigi24 is not online. megaluigi24
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29 Jun 2013 08:06 PM
@baboo
Yah it has too much power over the West.
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Tenal is not online. Tenal
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29 Jun 2013 09:03 PM
I'm not very knowledgeable on Judaism, but does it say the Messiah will come when Israel owns all those lands?
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thepit44 is not online. thepit44
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29 Jun 2013 09:28 PM
It never specifies what will happen before the Messiah comes, but this is my theory. All the land that once belonged to King David will be reunited.
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megaluigi24 is not online. megaluigi24
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29 Jun 2013 09:39 PM
Why would the Messiah come if all the Jews conquered the Middle East?
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thepit44 is not online. thepit44
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29 Jun 2013 09:40 PM
Because it is said in the Torah that the Jews will control this land.
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megaluigi24 is not online. megaluigi24
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29 Jun 2013 09:40 PM
But why would the Messiah appear?
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thepit44 is not online. thepit44
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29 Jun 2013 09:44 PM
Because the Jews have captured the land that was predicted.

The last time God spoke conversationally to anyone was when the Jews had this kingdom, so I predicted He will do it again once we regain the kingdom.
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megaluigi24 is not online. megaluigi24
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29 Jun 2013 09:45 PM
So the Messiah said that he will only come when the lands are conquered? That is selfish.
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thepit44 is not online. thepit44
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29 Jun 2013 09:46 PM
The Messiah never said that, it is just my prediction.

And why is that selfish?
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megaluigi24 is not online. megaluigi24
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29 Jun 2013 09:49 PM
Because he will never come out any other time. He only wants to come out when the Jews are powerful enough. He needs to come out and help all those in need.
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thepit44 is not online. thepit44
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29 Jun 2013 09:50 PM
The Messiah is to save the Jews, not everyone.
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megaluigi24 is not online. megaluigi24
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29 Jun 2013 09:52 PM
Yeah that's pretty selfish and mean. He needs to provide salvation for everyone. Jesus did that. And the Jews called him a fake Messiah.
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thepit44 is not online. thepit44
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29 Jun 2013 09:57 PM
Jesus was a fake Messiah and I think it is pretty selfish to be the saviour for your religion and bring everyone else to Hell.

Jews don't believe that. The Messiah comes to save our religion and everyone else can continue life. Our Messiah does not send everyone to Hell.
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megaluigi24 is not online. megaluigi24
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29 Jun 2013 09:58 PM
I didn't say anything about the Messiah bringing them to Purgatory. I'm just saying that the Messiah needs to open up and save others.
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thepit44 is not online. thepit44
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29 Jun 2013 10:04 PM
Well too bad. I can't dictate what God wants
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megaluigi24 is not online. megaluigi24
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29 Jun 2013 10:06 PM
I think it is because Jews interpret God's sayings differently than Muslims or Christians.
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thepit44 is not online. thepit44
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29 Jun 2013 10:06 PM
Of course we do, we came first
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Tenal is not online. Tenal
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29 Jun 2013 10:07 PM
@thepit
Don't Jews believe that non-Jewish people go to hell?
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