funtom5
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| 26 Jun 2013 12:50 PM |
This is for all you "people" that judge Communism.Or just don't know what it is.
What is Communism? Communism is a revolutionary socialist movement to create a classless and stateless social order structured upon common ownership of the means of production, as well as a social, political and economic ideology that aims at the establishment of this social order.For the good of the working class.
How can you be Classless? Classless society refers to a society in which no one is born into a social class. Such distinctions of wealth, income, education, culture, or social network might arise and would only be determined by individual experience and achievement in such a society.And if you are not born into anything then you can't fight,their will be no fights among groups of people.In a Classless Society their is only the Working Class and the Rich Class which is Government.So to sum it up in a Classless Society their is only Citizen(Military,Police ect) and Government(Leader,Council ect)
How can you be Stateless? In other words look at the United States,theirs 50 states is their not?Well think of if though States did not exist and you would be in one Big Country.That's how Karl Marx(Founder of Communism) saw it,so instead of all these little Cities and "States" Governing them self's instead theirs just one Central Government .
What do you mean by Working Class? The Communist Party fights only for the Working Class.For better Rights,Care and Labor Laws.What do I mean by Working Class.Well all of us,unless your a Rich Capitalist but everyone else,the Low Class and the Middle Class.
Thank you for reading if you want more info on Communism just ask me,I am one.
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DirictorM
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funtom5
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| 26 Jun 2013 01:48 PM |
| Well than you are saying helping the Working Class is evil.Well you don't care about anyone! |
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sinii
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| 26 Jun 2013 01:52 PM |
"Communism is evil"
Watch out everyone, it's a brainwashed extremist capitalist who knows nothing about other points of view! |
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pepper0
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| 26 Jun 2013 01:53 PM |
Why not just stop the poor from being poor?
Why create equality at the expense of both the rich and the poor?
Just let people compete and trade in a free market environment and people will be much more better off. |
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sinii
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| 26 Jun 2013 01:55 PM |
"Why not just stop the poor from being poor?"
Technically impossible. There would always be the poorest people, even if they do have a shelter. Those people with no luxuries but a place to live in, if the homeless weren't homeless anymore, well then those would be the people considered "poor." |
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ginafent
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| 26 Jun 2013 02:06 PM |
There are ways to fix poverty, Me and my mum discuss all the time. Here in Britain, the Torries (-_-) Have just introduced a policy, if you earn more than 500 000 (Not exact number, but it's A lot of money) YOU GET TO PAY LESS TAX.
What is this.. Why are people so stupid. This is my view, and personally I can't see how people see it differently, BUT everyone has an opinion. And they are all valid.
I'M SO LEFT WING IMA FALL OF THE EDGE OF THE WORLD. Deal with it. |
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| 26 Jun 2013 03:25 PM |
| against it, takes away all the fun |
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Varese1
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| 26 Jun 2013 03:26 PM |
"Why create equality at the expense of both the rich and the poor?"
It is not at the expense of both the rich and poor. |
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Varese1
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| 26 Jun 2013 03:28 PM |
"Just let people compete and trade in a free market environment and people will be much more better off."
A minority will be much more better off. |
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| 26 Jun 2013 04:22 PM |
Communism is when everyone is paid the same, And you can't change your own government, There's no voting system. That's what you said basically. I agree with most of the communist party, But the plan has been proven not to work. Paying everyone the same, And never having to worry about getting a job, Because the government does that for you, people eventually stop working, And don't work at all, Then nothing gets done. And not being about to change your government, Would be abused by any and every country.
I can see where they were trying to go with communism, And it was a good idea. If someone would perfect it to work long term, Then I'd agree with it 100%. |
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| 26 Jun 2013 04:52 PM |
| Just because Communism works in theory doesn't mean it works in reality. |
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Varese1
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| 26 Jun 2013 05:22 PM |
"Communism is when everyone is paid the same, And you can't change your own government, There's no voting system."
nope not communism |
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Tappier
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Varese1
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| 26 Jun 2013 05:32 PM |
"Communism is a thorn in the side to anyone trying to work their way up in life."
but so is capitalism.
"Where's the incentive to actually work harder when you are getting paid the same as some lazy, goldbricking slob who has no ambition in life?"
you aren't getting paid the same as anyone because there's no money. there is no money in a communist society. as for incentive people would work harder for the improvement of society, perhaps recognition, fame, promotions, etc.? |
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Tappier
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Varese1
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| 26 Jun 2013 05:37 PM |
"If non-monetary reasons were the incentive, most major corporations, that were started by those who worked their way up in the world, would not exist"
major corporations use non-monetary incentive all the time |
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Tappier
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Varese1
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| 26 Jun 2013 05:40 PM |
no major corporation cares about the betterment of society. major corporations can be both extremely damaging and good for society. whatever makes them money.
this is a problem |
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Tappier
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Varese1
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| 26 Jun 2013 05:46 PM |
| the problem is not that they're making money. in our society money is essential to live a comfortable life. the problem is they're doing unethical things to obtain money and unevenly distributing the money among their employees. |
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| 26 Jun 2013 06:14 PM |
| Nothing is unethical about giving people what they deserve. Capitalism with welfare is better, because it places no limit on incentive, and doesn't give money to those who don't want to work, but at the same time, grants an equal opportunity to everyone. |
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sinii
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| 26 Jun 2013 06:15 PM |
"Nothing is unethical about giving people what they deserve."
Yes. However, it's unethical to give people more than they deserve. Which is what both communism and capitalism do. |
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| 26 Jun 2013 06:37 PM |
Yes. However, it's unethical to give people more than they deserve. Which is what both communism and capitalism do. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- So, you believe there should be a cap on how much wealth that a person earns? |
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