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Re: "Paid Access" - My Opinion On It

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USMCkabar is not online. USMCkabar
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26 Jun 2013 01:23 PM
I really dislike the sound of this. If BC members want extra money for joining the game, make it BC only. I hate the idea of new feature, due to most of the people on ROBLOX being greedy. People who copy games and fake title them will set a price to play their game, making them more rich, and less deserving of the currency.

I very rarely ever say this, but I wish that in this case, ROBLOX would go back to really having to earn robux on this website. These days, it's way to easy to get robux, with people copying shirts/pants all the time, and making their place BC for 10 tickets per play, and now, paying to actually play the game. It brings a sense of less work having to be done to archive more. That may sound like a good thing, but, for the users that are 'swimming' in robux here, and have earnt it by copying places, and fake titling them, it's not so good.
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98Greener is not online. 98Greener
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26 Jun 2013 01:24 PM
Let me answer this with a question.
How many "good" BC games do you see?


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Wesker6543 is not online. Wesker6543
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26 Jun 2013 01:25 PM
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USMCkabar is not online. USMCkabar
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26 Jun 2013 01:25 PM
@98Greener,
I don't know, because I cannot play them.
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warman409 is not online. warman409
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26 Jun 2013 01:26 PM
Cool story bro, no one cares.








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USMCkabar is not online. USMCkabar
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26 Jun 2013 01:26 PM
"It brings a sense of less work having to be done to archive more"

*achieve
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USMCkabar is not online. USMCkabar
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26 Jun 2013 01:27 PM
@warman409,
You cared enough to click the thread, and then cared enough to post a reply, so, your argument is invalid.
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emporerj is not online. emporerj
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26 Jun 2013 01:28 PM
Where do the admins say anything about making this feature?

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USMCkabar is not online. USMCkabar
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26 Jun 2013 01:29 PM
@emporerj,
http://www.roblox.com/Forum/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=102899296
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warman409 is not online. warman409
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26 Jun 2013 01:29 PM
@USMCkabar



I don't care, for you see, I posted my opinion about your opinion.









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ZzombieXX is not online. ZzombieXX
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26 Jun 2013 01:30 PM
I doubt they will make more money off of it, if they are greedy wouldn't it be safe to assume they will make it overpriced. If something if overpriced I would figure it not worth it just to play it.
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USMCkabar is not online. USMCkabar
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26 Jun 2013 01:30 PM
@warman409,
You do care, if you didn't care, then why would you have an opinion that you feel the need to share?
It's like me saying, "I don't care about the current Football match, but i'll watch it so that I can see the results."
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chiefjustus is not online. chiefjustus
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26 Jun 2013 01:31 PM
Except that's not how it works.

Money earned from paid access does not go straight to the game's creator; it goes into escrow for a period of time. If buyers complain -- for example, the game used a false thumbnail or is otherwise misleading -- then money will be refunded and the creator will make nothing.

Combined with thumbs up/thumbs down (and notice also that game creators *cannot* disable comments for paid access games), you'd have to be an idiot to make a deceptive paid access game...because you won't earn anything -- except the scorn of the community.

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USMCkabar is not online. USMCkabar
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26 Jun 2013 01:32 PM
@ZzombieXX,
Yes, but lets say that they make the price "1 ticket" to enter. They will get that one ticket, and the ticket that you get when a person plays, meaning if 50 people play, you get 100 tickets. Easy money = not good.
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98Greener is not online. 98Greener
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26 Jun 2013 01:32 PM
See? Refunds! :D



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emporerj is not online. emporerj
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26 Jun 2013 01:33 PM
Why do you care? People could already do this by making a game pass that you have to buy, and if you don't own it it kicks you.

Plus, getting place visits is normally hard to do, I doubt many people would gain anything by making people PAY to play, because most of the time it's near impossible to get people to play your game.

Plus, even if they did do it, what would you lose?

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IanFL is not online. IanFL
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26 Jun 2013 01:33 PM
They already said this is a BC only feature. Noob "See's you are an 07er" I mean, uh... Person who disagrees with me!
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fireblast7000 is not online. fireblast7000
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26 Jun 2013 01:34 PM
Chief, always saving our skins.
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USMCkabar is not online. USMCkabar
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26 Jun 2013 01:35 PM
@chiefjustus,
I see what you are saying, and now that, that has been cleared up, then it's not such a bad idea, however, I still believe that money is made to easily on this website now. Before, (going back a few years) you actually had to work hard to earn robux, now, I really think that it is to easy, encouraging more people to 'mislead title', due to it making people rich, fast.
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emporerj is not online. emporerj
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26 Jun 2013 01:35 PM
"Easy money = not good."

You realize how hard it would be to get people to go to the game/play it?

If people pay them, then they have EARNED it, if they actually get the money, then that means people left good reviews (or at least didn't complain).

It's never "Easy" money, if you don't know, no good game is easily made. All of my games took weeks of programming, beta testing, building, improving and more. And my "RoCity Creator 2" Will take advantage of this new system, it will cost a few tickets to play, where the other one is free. People who enjoy the first one, will be excited enough about the second one to pay for it.

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emporerj is not online. emporerj
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26 Jun 2013 01:36 PM
And as they said, you couldn't make a crap game and get the money. It's a waste of time and energy for the creator, and they gain nothing. (besides the 1 ticket per player that's always awarded)

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LukeJW is not online. LukeJW
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26 Jun 2013 01:37 PM
What's that?
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USMCkabar is not online. USMCkabar
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26 Jun 2013 01:41 PM
@emporerj,
One post at a time please. :)

Post 1:
"Why do you care? People could already do this by making a game pass that you have to buy, and if you don't own it it kicks you."
You are not forced to buy the game pass.

"Plus, getting place visits is normally hard to do, I doubt many people would gain anything by making people PAY to play, because most of the time it's near impossible to get people to play your game."
People spam comments all the time, and it works, I have watched places grow in visits by spamming on a daily basis. They would gain money, as I stated, by making the cost just 1 ticket, they double their money in tickets by 50% per player.

"Plus, even if they did do it, what would you lose?"
The little faith I have in the community.


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Post 2:
"You realize how hard it would be to get people to go to the game/play it? "
As stated before, making the price 1 ticket, would increase ticket profits by 50%

"f people pay them, then they have EARNED it, if they actually get the money, then that means people left good reviews (or at least didn't complain)."
Some of the younger people may not find reading the comments 'fun', and disregard them, meaning unless they paid attention to the likes/dislikes, they would be clueless as to what to expect.

"It's never "Easy" money, if you don't know, no good game is easily made. All of my games took weeks of programming, beta testing, building, improving and more. And my "RoCity Creator 2" Will take advantage of this new system, it will cost a few tickets to play, where the other one is free. People who enjoy the first one, will be excited enough about the second one to pay for it. "
I'm not talking about the quality of the games. Notice how most of the front page is filled with poor copied games (however it is improving)? They get tones of profile of those, with little work.

"It's a waste of time and energy for the creator, and they gain nothing. (besides the 1 ticket per player that's always awarded)"
They deserve that times and energy wasted, like we get time and energy wasted playing 'their' game.
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emporerj is not online. emporerj
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26 Jun 2013 02:44 PM
I get the feeling that all of your points are just finding a way to find something wrong with everything I said, "The little faith I have in the community" is not a valid loss worth canceling the system for.

They gain their profits by 10x by making a game BC only, you don't see people ruining the economy, do you? It's still pretty challenging to make money, just because a select few have millions, no one else does. Not like they share it.

And also, paying to play, doesn't mean that new robux are generated, it's even just cycling. So even if someone made a LOT of money, there's no more money in the system. In fact, there's less, due to the 30% fee.

I could continue to argue on, but I feel like you are just going to be unreasonable and find something wrong with everything I say. There's nothing wrong with this system, and you just want to find something wrong because of your immature nature.

I will not reply to this thread any longer, it has no valid points whatsoever.
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emporerj is not online. emporerj
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26 Jun 2013 02:45 PM
Oh, one more thing though.

""Why do you care? People could already do this by making a game pass that you have to buy, and if you don't own it it kicks you."
You are not forced to buy the game pass."

Well, it works the same.

>game maker makes place pay to play
Okay, then the person pays before they can play.

>game maker makes a game pass to play, then makes a GUI that covers the screen, prompting you to buy it, if you do not buy it, it kicks you from the server.

It's the same concept, it could be done as it is.

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