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Re: Let's start a massive clan debate.

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YeIIoJaket is not online. YeIIoJaket
Joined: 29 Aug 2010
Total Posts: 13436
23 Jun 2013 11:20 PM
John's Cobras is considerably one of the greatest clans of this time.

I can make legitimate counter arguments to support the ongoing claim.

With that being said...begin.
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pieman1026 is not online. pieman1026
Joined: 23 Jan 2010
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23 Jun 2013 11:21 PM
John is white.
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NanoTraining is not online. NanoTraining
Joined: 20 Jun 2013
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23 Jun 2013 11:21 PM
Stop getting hgigh okay ye11o
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YeIIoJaket is not online. YeIIoJaket
Joined: 29 Aug 2010
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23 Jun 2013 11:21 PM
Many clan leaders are white and are very successful.
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YeIIoJaket is not online. YeIIoJaket
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23 Jun 2013 11:22 PM
I did stop getting high, Nano. I've been clean for three months and two days.
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Elotus is not online. Elotus
Joined: 13 Jun 2013
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23 Jun 2013 11:22 PM
They are really active actually...

But john has poor skills of picking HR's.
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YeIIoJaket is not online. YeIIoJaket
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23 Jun 2013 11:23 PM
Despite John's poor skills of choosing proper high ranks, the low ranks still manage to function properly on their own with unbelievable cooperation skills from time-to-tone and still get their jobs done.
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USAFGeneral is not online. USAFGeneral
Joined: 11 Dec 2010
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23 Jun 2013 11:25 PM
I would debate, but I am far too tired from doing payrolling and filling out spreadsheets.

I'll direct you to the words that I once heard a JC Sgt. say when entering a server...,

"JC SPECAIL APES R HERE!"
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yuiopp is not online. yuiopp
Joined: 26 Mar 2010
Total Posts: 5695
23 Jun 2013 11:25 PM
LRs doing their own thing is never GOOD
That's communism!
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NanoTraining is not online. NanoTraining
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23 Jun 2013 11:25 PM
You get a medal ye11o.
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YeIIoJaket is not online. YeIIoJaket
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23 Jun 2013 11:26 PM
USAF, that's one troop out of many. That's one person on their own against the group as a whole.

Even though you may think that's communism, Yui, it benefits. They work on their own and abide by their own limits. That's a good thing, it really is. Plus, Communism is underrated and hated upon reasons that aren't so true nowadays.
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USAFGeneral is not online. USAFGeneral
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23 Jun 2013 11:27 PM
Then how did that person become a Sergeant?
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fruitbox is not online. fruitbox
Joined: 28 Aug 2009
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23 Jun 2013 11:28 PM
He constantly lies, and gives out false propaganda.

With this being said, he tries to make it seem like he has war accomplishments- which he doesn't.

Unless you think lying to get something is good, John in particular is a piece of work.
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fishking523 is not online. fishking523
Joined: 09 Jun 2011
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23 Jun 2013 11:28 PM
JC is largely one of the more successful clans out there.
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YeIIoJaket is not online. YeIIoJaket
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23 Jun 2013 11:28 PM
That person possibly became a Sergeant by hard effort, proving the necessary skills that reached requirements, gave what it took to become that honoring rank, etc. How one talks does not present how one acts, to a certain extent.
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fishking523 is not online. fishking523
Joined: 09 Jun 2011
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23 Jun 2013 11:29 PM
Although, their image is mucked up mainly due to immature people, and people who have lied about their age when registering for roblox.
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YeIIoJaket is not online. YeIIoJaket
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23 Jun 2013 11:30 PM
Fruitbox, isn't a majority of propaganda in the world flawed? There are many propaganda posters that were involved in many wars - reality and Roblox - that had false information, or exaggerated. It's like yellow journalism with him; he extends the truth. Plus, many lie. Some at a constant rate, some once in a blue moon. It isn't comparable to how he has his soldiers are trained for combat.
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gazamit is not online. gazamit
Joined: 02 Jun 2010
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23 Jun 2013 11:30 PM
how are you staying clean for so long...
geesh.

and huh, I agree actually. John's a nice guy, and he made JC one of the most active clan ever.

Take the cow, it's our only hope!
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YeIIoJaket is not online. YeIIoJaket
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23 Jun 2013 11:31 PM
Fish, age restrictions are always looked down upon and excuses for merely everything. You'll have immature people everywhere no matter how hard you attempt to get rid of them all. There are many clans that had far worse individuals than John's Cobras.
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YeIIoJaket is not online. YeIIoJaket
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23 Jun 2013 11:33 PM
Gaz, even though I would always have on-and-on relapsing and recovering moments, like I'm clean, three months later, relapse on substances, and as time goes by, officially knock it again, it's pretty easy. I don't get addicted, I just do it for the hell of it at times, or because I miss the feeling which is a sign of psychological addiction, which is the closest I've been to an addiction. I can easily go on and on without the stuff, but at certain peaks in my life, I just had a need for it. Plus, this one girl on my mind has helped me get off it and no matter how bad things get between us (nothing has yet), I'll always have her on my mind whenever I get another urge.
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fruitbox is not online. fruitbox
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23 Jun 2013 11:35 PM
His entire clan is revolved around a 'revolution' against 'dictators' when he's the biggest dictator and manipulator out there.

His channel is full of videos which aren't even in accordance to how they are posted. Many of his videos of 'invasion wins' didn't even occur on the day of when he says they did.

He calls people names- and he keeps idiots and exiles people trying to help the clan.

He can never 'admit' to anything, and thinks making his clan look like a bunch of idiots somehow helps him.

Sure, it's active and big. John is good at what he does I guess, but I don't think lying about everything in attempt to bring people into your clan is 'a worthy deed' by any means.
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YeIIoJaket is not online. YeIIoJaket
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23 Jun 2013 11:39 PM
Sure, he has his little revolution, but he's one of the many leaders that has the guts to call this revolution and take a big risk against much larger clans than him. Most can't do that. He may go against his words of getting rid of dictators when he's the dictator, but aren't all clan leaders a dictator under some circumstances?

Okay, he has videos that aren't on the day he claims. That doesn't necessarily affiliate to the point his clan can be, or is, the greatest clan of this time.

Many of us call others names whether we like it or not. It's a common human ability we tend to have. I can understand how you think him exiling the good ones is a bad thing, but it's his clan, not yours. If he finds them good, then it's his benefit of the doubt. He is following what he believes his clan deserves as he is the leader instead of listening to those who downgrade him. A proper leader would never listen to what they want for his rankings.

Many super-clans never admitted to anything either. FEAR, RAT, VAK, and numerous others did the exact same crap with avoiding losing battles, overdoing the effort to be cocky with their clan, and they still managed to be appreciated and powerful.
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Rezdonox is not online. Rezdonox
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23 Jun 2013 11:41 PM
It's unfortunately true how accurate YeIIo is with his debates...
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HunterBeastKiller123 is not online. HunterBeastKiller123
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23 Jun 2013 11:42 PM
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Gc1mak is not online. Gc1mak
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23 Jun 2013 11:42 PM
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