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Re: sony didnt change anything for the ps4

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Superbuilder3402 is not online. Superbuilder3402
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18 Jun 2013 11:38 PM
its just that microsoft set the bar so low that it's considered big news
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T90MBT is not online. T90MBT
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18 Jun 2013 11:55 PM
Well they're charging $5 a month too which is totally lame
It may sound stupid but I'm considering not buying one because of that one problem
Think about the long term effect they'll take advantage and the price will just increase with each generation
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PkMnTrainerCRYSTAL is not online. PkMnTrainerCRYSTAL
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18 Jun 2013 11:57 PM
T90

it's been $5 though, it's not a price increase?
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88dragon6 is not online. 88dragon6
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19 Jun 2013 12:10 AM
You know, there's this thing, called single player.
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Brendon12343 is not online. Brendon12343
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19 Jun 2013 12:13 AM
And a thing called making money.
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T90MBT is not online. T90MBT
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19 Jun 2013 12:48 AM
@Crystal
What I'm saying is that for right now it's $5 but once they see how many people pay it they're just going to increase it slightly until its like $50 and since its so gradual people will think that's normal that they have to pay that
Basically it's going to stop poorer people from playing and making the same profit and it shouldn't be like that
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BadassVikingNinja is not online. BadassVikingNinja
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19 Jun 2013 12:49 AM
"What I'm saying is that for right now it's $5 but once they see how many people pay it they're just going to increase it slightly until its like $50 and since its so gradual people will think that's normal that they have to pay that
Basically it's going to stop poorer people from playing and making the same profit and it shouldn't be like that"
i just cannot
im
im done
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T90MBT is not online. T90MBT
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19 Jun 2013 12:53 AM
You can't be done you haven't started anything
Fail posting for counts
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BadassVikingNinja is not online. BadassVikingNinja
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19 Jun 2013 12:54 AM
>for counts
I have 8K+ posts I don't need any more
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Jared343 is not online. Jared343
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19 Jun 2013 01:14 AM
that's not how it works T90.
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T90MBT is not online. T90MBT
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19 Jun 2013 01:19 AM
Yes it is
However you think it works its still taking an unnecessary $5 a month
If they're not making enough money don't you think they would've required PSN to be $5 already?
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BadassVikingNinja is not online. BadassVikingNinja
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19 Jun 2013 01:23 AM
t90
PSN is completely free
All they did was take multiplayer from the free side, and add it to the PS+ side which is $5/m or $50/y
they aren't going to increase it to more than $7 if even that considering they said it would stay the same price
They would lose customers if they rose it higher
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T90MBT is not online. T90MBT
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19 Jun 2013 01:31 AM
That's what I'm saying though
Here's an example: 500 customers paying $5 a month = $2500
The company raises the price to $25, and loses customers
There's still people that will pay that amount so it's 100 customers paying $25 = $2500
But the company will also force some people to pay more even though they aren't really willing to
110 customers = $2750 they're making a small profit more than having more customers and that's why they do it
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BadassVikingNinja is not online. BadassVikingNinja
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19 Jun 2013 01:35 AM
all of your logic is just so so so so so bad
THEY ARE NOT FORCING ANYONE TO PAY ANYTHING
it's not hard to understand ffs
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T90MBT is not online. T90MBT
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19 Jun 2013 01:44 AM
1. That's not what I'm saying 2. Therefore you're arguing at nothing
My logic is only "bad" because you're not understanding
For no reason at all they're charging $5 each month and some people won't do that
I know quite a few poor people with ps3s because they couldn't pay for the Xbox each month
Instead of having a ps4, they will have a ps3 still even though they COULD have a ps4
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BadassVikingNinja is not online. BadassVikingNinja
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19 Jun 2013 01:49 AM
ok let me explain this
You're right they could do what you're saying, except they would not force people to pay, and they'd most likely make less, except here are some reasons they would not do that:
Larger community = more devs want to make games for said platform = more $$$ for sony
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T90MBT is not online. T90MBT
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19 Jun 2013 01:55 AM
Well I think it's good for devs with like 1-5 games to charge online but then you have the huge companies like Treyarch Activision Capcom etc companies that already have more than enough money for the rest of their lives
Why shouldn't the poor be allowed to have entertainment just because of corporate greed?
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BadassVikingNinja is not online. BadassVikingNinja
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19 Jun 2013 01:58 AM
ok im trying to put this as simply as possible
YOU DO NOT NEED TO SPEND $5/m FOR THE PS4
That is for online multiplayer + several free games each month
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T90MBT is not online. T90MBT
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19 Jun 2013 02:02 AM
Ok I'm trying to put this as simply as possible
THEY DON'T NEED TO CHARGE $5, THEY ALREADY MAKE $1 BILLION A MONTH
I wish people would just fight greed
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Superbuilder3402 is not online. Superbuilder3402
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19 Jun 2013 02:12 AM
>microsoft does the same thing, except stricter
lol its just live

>sony does it
OMG HOGS
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Ratiosu381 is not online. Ratiosu381
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19 Jun 2013 02:13 AM
it's to stop casuals from getting anywhere near it
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Superbuilder3402 is not online. Superbuilder3402
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19 Jun 2013 02:16 AM
i love how the entire thread was derailed into a "heated" argument
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meldo is not online. meldo
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19 Jun 2013 04:56 AM
">microsoft does the same thing, except stricter
lol its just live

>sony does it
OMG HOGS"


it's funny because that's the exact opposite of what's going on in the majority of VGF

>microsoft did live with 360
>omg microsoft is the devil too expensive!!!
>sony does ps+, pretty much the same restrictions as live and same price
>dont see what the big deal is, if you cant afford it you must be awfully poor
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meldo is not online. meldo
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19 Jun 2013 04:57 AM
"it's to stop casuals from getting anywhere near it"

the fee on the 360 didn't stop casuals from getting near it

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zoozooba444 is not online. zoozooba444
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19 Jun 2013 06:22 AM
'Lowered the bar'.
I think microsoft hit the bar, and fell underneath it.
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