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Re: What went wrong in the battle of singapore

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gamert7 is not online. gamert7
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19 Jun 2013 01:02 AM
Why do you think the British lost against the Tiger of Malaya?
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iKaaat is not online. iKaaat
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19 Jun 2013 01:03 AM
Everything.
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gamert7 is not online. gamert7
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19 Jun 2013 01:04 AM
- Of course everything went wrong. But, it would be interesting to know what tactical and strategical mistakes were made on the British side.
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CommanderRoblock is not online. CommanderRoblock
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19 Jun 2013 01:05 AM
my great grandfather fought in malaysia if that counts
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gamert7 is not online. gamert7
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19 Jun 2013 01:08 AM
Unless he was a high ranking staff officer then what he did in this matter means little to none in the overall break down.

I think a interesting thing to note is that the Japanese were riding down Malaysia so they had a type of blitzkrieg in a way.
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CommanderRoblock is not online. CommanderRoblock
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19 Jun 2013 01:08 AM
He was an officer and survived a banzai charge after being shot in the back by two Japanese soldiers.
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gamert7 is not online. gamert7
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19 Jun 2013 01:11 AM
Commander, if memory serves correct your great-grandfather would have been in Iraq[or other parts of Arabia]. I was not aware the British would be sending soldiers from the African front all the way to the Royal Colonies in Singapore.
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CommanderRoblock is not online. CommanderRoblock
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19 Jun 2013 01:11 AM
My great grandfather on my mothers side was Welsh and my great grandfather on my fathers side was an Iraqi officer also.
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gamert7 is not online. gamert7
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19 Jun 2013 01:17 AM
If this is all true then what do you know of the defense by the British in Malaysia. Then again my great grandfather was disturbed by his experience in the European Theater so yours may have never talked about it as well.
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MasterSpyro1010 is not online. MasterSpyro1010
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19 Jun 2013 01:28 AM
Gamer, as Tesco say, every soldier counts.
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gamert7 is not online. gamert7
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19 Jun 2013 01:39 AM
@Master ah but, you're wrong. When you out number your enemy 10 - 1 every soldier doesn't count but, the overall performance of the unit as a whole. The only case where every soldier counts is when you go to war with a chess like strategy - attrition warfare. Then indeed numbers matter.
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CommanderRoblock is not online. CommanderRoblock
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19 Jun 2013 02:22 AM
All he really told us was describe the Japanese Soldiers and their bicycles as I was like 3 the last time I saw him.

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gamert7 is not online. gamert7
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19 Jun 2013 02:41 AM
Ah I see. Ye those bicycles were more or less a secret weapon because, you could carry more supplies and not get tired.
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19 Jun 2013 02:44 AM
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thepit44 is not online. thepit44
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19 Jun 2013 06:12 AM
My great uncle was captured in Singapore and was sent to a Japanese POW camp.
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19 Jun 2013 09:54 AM
My grandfather flew bombing sorties out of the Marianas and saw combat in North Africa.
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19 Jun 2013 09:59 AM
My great grandpa fought in World War 2 for the Burmese Army while my great uncle fought for the Burmese Navy.
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MahPizzaIsHere is not online. MahPizzaIsHere
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19 Jun 2013 11:22 AM
Lol, I feel so old. Everyone's great-grandparents fought in WW2, while I only have to look back to my grandfather to find a world war 2 vet. He was born in 1920.
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19 Jun 2013 11:44 AM
What went wrong in the Battle of Singapore is what went wrong in the Battle for Malaysia:

-The British outnumbered the Japanese, but still couldn't hold them back.

-Percival wasn't much of a tactical genius. He fought the Japanese, expecting conventional warfare.

-Percival squandered what little naval support he had during the early stages of the Japanese invasion.

-British troops were only prepared to hold back the Japanese at certain positions along the Malay Peninsula. Once these positions were breached, the Japanese were able to take huge swaths of land (including Kuala Lumpur) with little to no resistance.

-After Malaysia was lost, Percival was hopeful that he'd be able to hold Singapore with reinforcements. All he got was several Australian regiments.

-Most British troops were stationed in either the city or at the Northern edge of the island, waiting to hit the Japanese troops as they landed on shore. The Japanese just went through the practically undefended marshes and gained a foothold on the island.

Basically, everything that could have gone wrong went wrong. It wasn't all Percival's fault (although he was by no means a great general), but rather, British military strength in general. The British Empire was ready to re-fight WWI, but by no means was it prepared for the entirely new set of tactics used by the Axis.
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megaluigi24 is not online. megaluigi24
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19 Jun 2013 11:45 AM
They were about as prepared as the Maginot Line.
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DanBloxTheGreat is not online. DanBloxTheGreat
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19 Jun 2013 02:39 PM
Err my cousin is fighting in Syria...
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megaluigi24 is not online. megaluigi24
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19 Jun 2013 02:40 PM
Dan, is he fighting for the government or the rebels? Or is he fighting in Hezbollah?
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DanBloxTheGreat is not online. DanBloxTheGreat
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19 Jun 2013 02:41 PM
Well if he's actually fighting (I know he goes and come from Syria, but I'm not getting a definite answer for whether he is actually fighting or not) it's for Hezbollah.
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megaluigi24 is not online. megaluigi24
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19 Jun 2013 02:42 PM
Lol it would be funny if he really was in Hezbollah. But I think that he's going into Syria just to probably collect some stuff like groceries.
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Corridan is not online. Corridan
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19 Jun 2013 03:16 PM
i fought in the asia i found one of their vietnamese filipino korean villages and i burned it down and said this is for pearl harbor you commie scum then i blew it up
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