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Re: Armacham members vs FEAR members

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EchoReaper is not online. EchoReaper
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15 Jun 2013 02:37 PM
A retired FEAR Officer recently argued with me that Armacham members never earned their ranks in the first place. His argument was as follows: "ATC members have no combat skill, have never been in any wars, haven't been in FEAR very long, and know nothing about the FEAR itself."

Let me remind you that rank has nothing to deal with time spent in FEAR and is not solely reliant on combat skill. Ranks are determined by contributions made towards the group. This is straight from the FEAR guide(Part 2) posted in the group description, and if you haven't even bothered to read it, I don't see why you'd be complaining about someone not earning their rank.
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The second was that Armacham members have no combat skill -- that was stated before I killed him in a sword duel without loosing a bit of health. After his rant on how lag caused him to loose, he continued to state that Armacham members had no combat skill whatsoever.

Third -- he claimed that Armacham members never experience war in any form. First off, let me state that his userId is 10,210,393 units away from mine(you know, over 10 million). This means that I joined 10 million users before him. I've had plenty of practice in war -- I was in groups even before groups officially came out(i.e. Umbrella Corp). Even after that, I joined RAT(when stealthmatt owned it) as soon as the group feature was released, and have been in groups every day since then. I'd obviously experienced more wars that he did, yet he insisted that I had no combat skill(which I had shown earlier ;) He also replied that only FEAR wars were important which made no sense because his whole point was to prove who had more combat skill. Not to mention the fact that we already established earlier that time combat skills weren't the only way to earn your rank.

Fourth -- He claimed that all Armacham members had not been in FEAR very long. I've only been in FEAR a couple of months, but people that have been in FEAR a long time(i.e. LordNobody, SHADOW, etc) are in Armacham. And yet again, we already know time spent in group doesn't affect rank.

Lastly -- the fact that Armacham members know nothing about what goes on in FEAR. A Private came up to me and asked why his friend was demoted, and it was natural for me not to know because FEAR is such a large group, but little ants-in-his-pants over in the corner shouted out that I wouldn't know anything about it because I was so inactive in FEAR. I then kindly told him that I'd been to four trainings so far today(Midnight training,2 trainings back to back hosted by Timot169, and the one hosted by WTO Many) and asked him who had been promoted at the trainings since I was so inactive. He didn't answer because my question was as absurd as his, and he may have realized that.

Let me make this clear that Armacham members don't have their rank for themselves, they have that rank in order to be able to help the rest of FEAR. It is Armacham who designs and scripts all of FEAR's bases, and all of the FEAR models available to FEAR members. You know Kohltastrophe? He was in Armacham -- all of his products are of Armacham origination. So if you don't appreciate the work that we do for you -- then please leave, as I see no point in talking to someone that unreasonable. Armacham exists to server FEAR -- not Armacham members.

I will be allowing replies to the post in case someone has a valid concern/argument, and I know that I'll be getting the typical C&G troll, but I don't mind -- go ahead and waste your breath trying to get attention.
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DoctorCooper is not online. DoctorCooper
Joined: 13 Nov 2009
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15 Jun 2013 02:38 PM
Who made this claim?

Armacham during its era prior to this one served as a combat division as well.
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PhantomNinja18 is not online. PhantomNinja18
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15 Jun 2013 02:38 PM
1st and noice m8
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EchoReaper is not online. EchoReaper
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15 Jun 2013 02:54 PM
WhateverImDressedAs. (If you didn't know, you could add the number I gave and my userId to find him)
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iroctheworld is not online. iroctheworld
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15 Jun 2013 02:56 PM
He isn't in FEAR.
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EchoReaper is not online. EchoReaper
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15 Jun 2013 02:56 PM
That's why I said *Retired*
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DoctorCooper is not online. DoctorCooper
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15 Jun 2013 03:33 PM
WhateverImDressed as wasn't even associated very much with Armacham.
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EchoReaper is not online. EchoReaper
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15 Jun 2013 03:58 PM
Figures
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WhateverImDressedAs is not online. WhateverImDressedAs
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15 Jun 2013 04:09 PM
First off, I never even said half of this stuff, lastly, I don't care, you wasted your time making this, you need to earn your rank, kthxbai.

-The Wida, Veteran.
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WhateverImDressedAs is not online. WhateverImDressedAs
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15 Jun 2013 04:10 PM
"He claimed that all Armacham members had not been in FEAR very long" I never said that, lying is a sin.
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EchoReaper is not online. EchoReaper
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15 Jun 2013 04:13 PM
Should I pull in the rest of the people at Alianor II when you were harassing me?
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WhateverImDressedAs is not online. WhateverImDressedAs
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15 Jun 2013 10:17 PM
"his userId is 10,210,393 units away from mine(you know, over 10 million). This means that I joined 10 million users before him" First off, I joined in 2010. You joined in 2012. You didn't join 10 million users before me. Idiot.
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EchoReaper is not online. EchoReaper
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16 Jun 2013 07:28 AM
I got my username changed "idiot". Look in my hats -- I have the 2008 visor.
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HD188753 is not online. HD188753
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16 Jun 2013 07:30 AM
Well then.
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WhateverImDressedAs is not online. WhateverImDressedAs
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16 Jun 2013 10:00 AM
Changing your username shouldn't change your join date.
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JOHNSTER98 is not online. JOHNSTER98
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16 Jun 2013 10:03 AM
"ATC members have no combat skill, have never been in any wars, haven't been in FEAR very long, and know nothing about the FEAR itself."

brb dying.
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WhateverImDressedAs is not online. WhateverImDressedAs
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16 Jun 2013 02:45 PM
^John, I didn't say that. I was specifically speaking to Echo, not the entire ATC.

-The Wida, Veteran.
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EchoReaper is not online. EchoReaper
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16 Jun 2013 07:49 PM
Even if it shouldn't, it changes your join date; however, the userId doesn't change even if you get your username changed.
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thok1599 is not online. thok1599
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16 Jun 2013 07:53 PM
He's just angry because they're better than him
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