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Re: Russian Revolution

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SmileyRainbow314 is not online. SmileyRainbow314
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12 Jun 2013 10:07 PM
Good or bad? I have an opinion but I want to see others intake.
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seanf1999 is not online. seanf1999
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12 Jun 2013 10:08 PM
Russian Revolution is just as bad as Vaktovian Empire.
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Tenal is not online. Tenal
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12 Jun 2013 10:08 PM
In the case of communism, it's horrible.
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megaluigi24 is not online. megaluigi24
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12 Jun 2013 10:40 PM
It was bad, but the Bolshevik Revolution was worse.
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SmileyRainbow314 is not online. SmileyRainbow314
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13 Jun 2013 04:38 PM
Technically that's the same thing as the Russian Revolution. There was a Russian Revolution of 1905 but the one I was talking about was the 1917 one.
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pepper0 is not online. pepper0
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13 Jun 2013 04:41 PM
If you like state terror and no political or economic freedoms, then yes it was very good.
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megaluigi24 is not online. megaluigi24
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13 Jun 2013 04:57 PM
The Bolshevik Revolution is part of the Russian Revolution.
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RubiksCubix is not online. RubiksCubix
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13 Jun 2013 05:00 PM
I actually liked some of Lenin's policies ok. He even initiated small-scale capitalism in NEP (New Economic Policy) to save the Russian economy.

But after Lenin, no, not at all. Even the Tsar was better.
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SmileyRainbow314 is not online. SmileyRainbow314
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13 Jun 2013 05:04 PM
The USSR was good until Stalin took control. Just saying.
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RubiksCubix is not online. RubiksCubix
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13 Jun 2013 05:06 PM
Not really. Although, that is sort of exactly what I said, because after Lenin Stalin took control.

But even Lenin was a murder.
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pepper0 is not online. pepper0
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13 Jun 2013 05:09 PM
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jbg23 is not online. jbg23
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13 Jun 2013 05:28 PM
Lenin and Stalin (primarily the latter) bastardized Marxism to the point that Americans still struggle to differentiate communism from authoritarianism.
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RubiksCubix is not online. RubiksCubix
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13 Jun 2013 05:41 PM
^ Agreed. Although Lenin did want free intelligent discussion in the Soviet government.


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SmileyRainbow314 is not online. SmileyRainbow314
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13 Jun 2013 05:46 PM
Personally I think Trotsky would have been a great leader.
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13 Jun 2013 07:18 PM
I don't. To put it into today's context, American neo-conservatives get a large portion of their general doctrine off of Trotsky.
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13 Jun 2013 08:19 PM
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13 Jun 2013 10:37 PM
Actually, I remember hearing that Lenin took away the right of freedom of speech. He wasn't all that good, but Stalin was worse. The Communists had the right ideas, but they put them into practical use the wrong way.
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SmileyRainbow314 is not online. SmileyRainbow314
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13 Jun 2013 10:42 PM
You're right. The concept's good, but it got into the wrong hands.
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ScriptsOn1 is not online. ScriptsOn1
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14 Jun 2013 01:05 AM
It was good until Stalinism came into play. As he killed tons of innocent people an even blacked out his most popular General Gorgey Zhukov because, he was 'to popular'.

But, it was better then the Tsars. Even with Stalinism the tsars were horrible and the revolution was better then what Russians had to put up with.
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ScriptsOn1 is not online. ScriptsOn1
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14 Jun 2013 01:06 AM
We are lucky Stalin was there though. Because, without him putting the right people into power militarily. ("Zhukov, Konev, Rokossovky and others") Hit-- could he took over all of Europe.
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sil4nc3r1223 is not online. sil4nc3r1223
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14 Jun 2013 01:08 AM
The Bolsheviks basically took away freedom of speech and introduced many old practices which the Tsars used. Conscription was back. Old officers were back. The Bolsheviks replaced the Tsar and Nobility.
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ScriptsOn1 is not online. ScriptsOn1
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14 Jun 2013 01:11 AM
Conscription was probably necessary in their situation as they wanted to spread the Revolution everywhere in at least Europe.
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SmileyRainbow314 is not online. SmileyRainbow314
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14 Jun 2013 09:46 AM
I mean, a lot of people were oppressed under the tsars. Actually, Stalin was more fascist than communist in my opinion. Just think about it.
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CommanderRoblock is not online. CommanderRoblock
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14 Jun 2013 09:54 AM
"I mean, a lot of people were oppressed under the tsars. Actually, Stalin was more fascist than communist in my opinion. Just think about it."

You don't know what fascism is do you
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