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SongofSwords is not online. SongofSwords
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12 Jun 2013 07:30 PM
And, I'm sorry if this goes against my religion, but I believe that as long as somebody has stayed loyal to their religion and been a good person, even if they have a different religion, that they go to heaven. This, in my mind, includes animals, people-everything. I believe that god cares enough about humankind that he can see past beliefs and judge by good or bad.

So, in a sense, I trust that my god judges humans as humans-inperfect beings.

Flame if you wish to, I'm not attempting to force any of you to believe my religion, I'm just explaining my beliefs, and if it seems like that in any way, it's unintentional.

Oh, PS...

~Torivors
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firekillerxx is not online. firekillerxx
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12 Jun 2013 07:32 PM
Im not flaming but you spelled Christian wrong
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bobthebad123 is not online. bobthebad123
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12 Jun 2013 07:32 PM
tl;dr
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Noowuh is not online. Noowuh
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12 Jun 2013 07:32 PM
Im not flaming but you spelled Christian wrong [2]
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SongofSwords is not online. SongofSwords
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12 Jun 2013 07:32 PM
Oops. Thanks for pointing that out.

I probably should have proofread this...
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Grayssake is not online. Grayssake
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12 Jun 2013 07:32 PM
I understand and I am fine with that
Don't worry, I am an atheist, but not the kind that flames religions

AND IIIIIIIII WILL ALWAYS LOOOOOOOOVE YYOOOOOOOOOOOOOOUUUUUUUU
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SongofSwords is not online. SongofSwords
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12 Jun 2013 07:34 PM
"tl;dr"

*coughrudecough*
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PryoSpartan is not online. PryoSpartan
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12 Jun 2013 07:34 PM
Sounds cool.
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DepressedWeasel is not online. DepressedWeasel
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12 Jun 2013 07:36 PM
I'm loyal to my atheism, and according to you creationists, atheism is a religion.
So am I going to heaven?
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SongofSwords is not online. SongofSwords
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12 Jun 2013 07:38 PM
As long as you're a good person, in my mind... :)
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12prind is not online. 12prind
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12 Jun 2013 07:38 PM
ya this isn't supported by any biblical document or even the bible itself.
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SongofSwords is not online. SongofSwords
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12 Jun 2013 07:40 PM
Of course it isn't; this is what I believe. It's because I know that my god is merciful and kind, and that he rewards goodness in everyone. :)
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12prind is not online. 12prind
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12 Jun 2013 07:43 PM
"Of course it isn't; this is what I believe. It's because I know that my god is merciful and kind, and that he rewards goodness in everyone. :)"

so basicly its something that you made up to make yourself feel better and you have nothing to actually support this position........
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syfyguy65 is not online. syfyguy65
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12 Jun 2013 07:44 PM
You're going to hell for saying that. God killed 99% of the planet because they where "wicked." AKA, a good majority where atheists.

We are the Borg. Resistance is Futile.
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SongofSwords is not online. SongofSwords
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12 Jun 2013 07:45 PM
All of my life, I've been raised to believe that my god is kind and merciful. I have faith that since he is kind and merciful, he will judge fairly. This isn't something that I "made up to make myself feel better," it is something that I have used deductive reasoning to conclude.
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plowing is not online. plowing
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12 Jun 2013 07:46 PM
It's WHAT you believe though.
You basically say that anyone who is nice and kind to the world goes to heaven.
So an Atheist can go to heaven?
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Technicworkspace0 is not online. Technicworkspace0
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12 Jun 2013 07:46 PM
I killed some flies today am I going to hell?
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PryoSpartan is not online. PryoSpartan
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12 Jun 2013 07:48 PM
@sy this refers to what happen in the story of Noah ark right? There's more to that other than "a good majority were atheists"
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SongofSwords is not online. SongofSwords
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12 Jun 2013 07:49 PM
"You're going to ____ for saying that. God killed 99% of the planet because they where "wicked." AKA, a good majority where atheists."

I love my god, as I have been raised to do. I do not believe that my god would send me there for trusting in his mercy. I never did anything that was intentionally against my god, I only stated my opinion and beliefs on his judgement. My god is fair, and I know that he would not send somebody to the place you mentioned without considering whether or not they believe that they say, and whether it is right or wrong.
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12prind is not online. 12prind
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12 Jun 2013 07:50 PM
"All of my life, I've been raised to believe that my god is kind and merciful. I have faith that since he is kind and merciful, he will judge fairly. This isn't something that I "made up to make myself feel better," it is something that I have used deductive reasoning to conclude."

when you start from the reasoning that a god exists you start with a rather poorly built logical foundation to begin with and then you make this giant jump to "well it makes me feel better so i'm going to go ahead and conclude that god is merciful all loving and judges people fairly." also what part of this world would lead you to the conclusion that god is merciful judges fairly and is kind? i'm assuming you just kind of glossed over africa and a good portion of asia? so you just missed all of the pain, suffering, destruction, and death in this world and concluded that god is good right? if god exists hes the most evil being in the universe. this world is evidence of that.
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SongofSwords is not online. SongofSwords
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12 Jun 2013 07:51 PM
"It's WHAT you believe though.
You basically say that anyone who is nice and kind to the world goes to heaven.
So an Atheist can go to heaven?"

Yes, although they don't believe it, I think they can.

I'm tired of my religion getting flamed. I honestly just want everyone to understand the concept of "You believe what you believe, I believe what I believe." It makes me sad to see debates full of anger and hatred towards one another. :(
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12prind is not online. 12prind
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12 Jun 2013 07:55 PM


"I'm tired of my religion getting flamed."

i am not flaming your religion i am criticising it.

" I honestly just want everyone to understand the concept of "You believe what you believe, I believe what I believe.""

i understand that concept and its bunk. you have the right to believe whatever you want however you do not have the right to not face criticism for holding said belief.

"It makes me sad to see debates full of anger and hatred towards one another. :("


criticism=/=anger
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SongofSwords is not online. SongofSwords
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12 Jun 2013 07:55 PM
"when you start from the reasoning that a god exists you start with a rather poorly built logical foundation to begin with and then you make this giant jump to "well it makes me feel better so i'm going to go ahead and conclude that god is merciful all loving and judges people fairly." also what part of this world would lead you to the conclusion that god is merciful judges fairly and is kind? i'm assuming you just kind of glossed over africa and a good portion of asia? so you just missed all of the pain, suffering, destruction, and death in this world and concluded that god is good right? if god exists hes the most evil being in the universe. this world is evidence of that."

Within suffering, death, and destruction, there is always hope. I believe that these things exist for a reason-without them, life would be plain, boring, and meaningless. Have you ever considered, just once, what would happen without them? Each one of those is a trial, to test whether the people who deal with them are good or bad.

I would also like to mention that my religion does not mean that "God is the cause of everything! It's his fault that we're stuck in this terrible mess!" It means that we believe that these things exist with reason, and that those who pull through them are rewarded in the end.
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ShredasaurusRex is not online. ShredasaurusRex
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12 Jun 2013 07:56 PM
Not to flame you, but the bible has kind of made clear that you aren't sent to Heaven/Hell for how good you are in life.
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MRro33blox is not online. MRro33blox
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12 Jun 2013 07:58 PM
LEL GUYZ LOK ITS A FlMAE PoST THEM ATHEISTS CANT HELP DEM SELFS WHEN THEY SEE SOME SAY "god"


2 legit 2 quit
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