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Re: THE END OF FAKE TITLE GAMES (NO MODERATION REQUIRED)

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AccessibleMrStealth is not online. AccessibleMrStealth
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07 Jun 2013 11:12 PM
[Please take the time to reply, even if all you do is skim the post]

Chances are you know what a fake title game is. It's one where the creator makes it look like it's something that it's not, to unfairly get visits. These games disappoint and irritate many users, and I am proposing 5 suggestions to stop them, and NO MODERATION IS REQUIRED.

1. Remove image thumbnails altogether

Their only purpose is to make a game look better than it actually is (an act of deception) or to aid in fake title games. Either way, they do more harm than good, and should be removed altogether. Videos are fine, because they are harder to fake and provide a sense of what the game is like.

2. Creator only gets a ticket after 5 minutes (credit to GreenMasterJake for this idea)

At fake title games, most people leave shortly after, because they discover it is not what they expected it to be. To hinder the spread of fake title games, the creator should only get 1 ticket if the user stays for more than 5 minutes.

3. Comments cannot be disabled on games

Comments on games should not be able to be disabled. Disabling comments is a way to hide the fact that a game is a fake title one. This does not apply to catalog items. Even if spam increases, the pros outweigh the cons.

4. Title can only be changed 4 times a month (credit to mike12833 for this idea)

Many fake title game creators do what is called "bait and switch," once the game is on the front page they change the title frequently to attract more people to the place. A limit on the amount of times the name can be changed would help this.

5. Give people the option to report a game as a fake title one (this WOULD require moderation, though)

Next to the 'play' button on every game, there should be a button saying "Was this game not what you expected? Read more about fake title games and report it if necessary." There would be a separate button to report it as a fake title game, that way those reports would be sent to NobleDragon, who is in charge of taking down fake title games.

I do not take credit for any of these ideas, except #5. The others I have seen around, compiled them into 1 thread, and revised them.

Support? Great! Please leave a reply so more people will see the thread.
Don't support? Please tell me why.

Thanks for reading.
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TrustyMan2012 is not online. TrustyMan2012
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07 Jun 2013 11:16 PM
I support you all the way.
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Kamizura is not online. Kamizura
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07 Jun 2013 11:22 PM
i have a suggestion..

to rename a game/place people should need to spend a bit of robux, to make them pay would really make them think twice about renaming it to try get visits..

add this with the no ticket unless they been there for 5 mins and it would lower the amount of fake title games drastically as they would hardly gain enough tix for them to use personally let alone to change the name a second time as 99% of players dont stay in a game if its not what they expect for more than a minute
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DoctorTempest is not online. DoctorTempest
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07 Jun 2013 11:25 PM
"1. Remove image thumbnails altogether

Their only purpose is to make a game look better than it actually is (an act of deception) or to aid in fake title games. Either way, they do more harm than good, and should be removed altogether. Videos are fine, because they are harder to fake and provide a sense of what the game is like."

Sorry, but it's not going to happen.

"2. Creator only gets a ticket after 5 minutes (credit to GreenMasterJake for this idea)

At fake title games, most people leave shortly after, because they discover it is not what they expected it to be. To hinder the spread of fake title games, the creator should only get 1 ticket if the user stays for more than 5 minutes."

That seems fair enough.

"3. Comments cannot be disabled on games

Comments on games should not be able to be disabled. Disabling comments is a way to hide the fact that a game is a fake title one. This does not apply to catalog items. Even if spam increases, the pros outweigh the cons."

Not going to happen either. If you've seen clan forts, you'll know random butthurt people spam the comments with flames and insults.

"4. Title can only be changed 4 times a month (credit to mike12833 for this idea)

Many fake title game creators do what is called "bait and switch," once the game is on the front page they change the title frequently to attract more people to the place. A limit on the amount of times the name can be changed would help this."

So I can't change the version number in my name? Can't change what stage it's in? No, that's not going to happen.

"5. Give people the option to report a game as a fake title one (this WOULD require moderation, though)

Next to the 'play' button on every game, there should be a button saying "Was this game not what you expected? Read more about fake title games and report it if necessary." There would be a separate button to report it as a fake title game, that way those reports would be sent to NobleDragon, who is in charge of taking down fake title games."

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MAMS303 is not online. MAMS303
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07 Jun 2013 11:25 PM
First of all, great ideas. The only problem is number one. Thumbnails are great was to attract people to your game and make it look cool. Would you rather see a pile of bricks in the cover of your game or a cool logo? Also because you can tell right away if a game is fake number two depurposes one.
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flametiger10 is not online. flametiger10
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07 Jun 2013 11:29 PM
Support.
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Billoco is not online. Billoco
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07 Jun 2013 11:52 PM
Support except for no.1 and the thing about changing names every 4 months.
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AccessibleMrStealth is not online. AccessibleMrStealth
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08 Jun 2013 09:56 AM
@mams

Image thumbnails don't actually DO anything besides disguise a place or falsely glorify it.

@billoco

I said 4 times a month, not once every 4 months. Maybe it could be a limit of once every 3 days, but a time long enough to hinder bait and switch scams.
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Imblical is not online. Imblical
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08 Jun 2013 09:59 AM
Support to all but thumbnails.
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AccessibleMrStealth is not online. AccessibleMrStealth
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08 Jun 2013 10:00 AM
@Imbilical

Please explain your reasoning. As I said, the harm they do outweighs the benefit of them.
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AccessibleMrStealth is not online. AccessibleMrStealth
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09 Jun 2013 01:05 AM
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skelly20 is not online. skelly20
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09 Jun 2013 01:08 AM
Once a admin named Nobledragon said he would do somthing about this if you send him a measage ORLY NOBLEDRAGON ORLY I have sent him so many measages about justseven and somefreak
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gunnerycaptainprice is not online. gunnerycaptainprice
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09 Jun 2013 01:09 AM
Support.

@Doctor, about the change version number thing, you can do that in the description.
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ShooterDude54 is not online. ShooterDude54
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09 Jun 2013 01:14 AM
I have a suggestion as well.

Dust off the banhammer and put it into action.

I've been saying this for so long. Unless you start giving out month-long bans or perma-bans, people will keep breaking the rules, because 1 day is nothing, and everyone has an alternate account.

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AccessibleMrStealth is not online. AccessibleMrStealth
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09 Jun 2013 06:05 PM
@Shooter

Perhaps you could contact info@roblox.com and see what they say.
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Velociraptor2005 is not online. Velociraptor2005
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09 Jun 2013 06:20 PM
1. Support.


2. What about small places like my Snow Land? (Half support.)



3. What about games that are fine getting called "Copied" or something? (no support)



4. Support.



5. Support.

6. Support.

85% support overall.
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AccessibleMrStealth is not online. AccessibleMrStealth
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09 Jun 2013 06:32 PM
@Velociraptor

Comments shouldn't be able to be disabled on games at all. I don't see why they have the option. All that does is hide any opposition to it.
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GreenMasterJake is not online. GreenMasterJake
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09 Jun 2013 07:32 PM
I support all but the thumbnails since some games do use them like they should, my main support is for number 2.
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TeenDolly2 is not online. TeenDolly2
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09 Jun 2013 07:46 PM
I Give full support because i am sick and tired of playing a game labeled
"build to survive the creepers" and then enetering a tycoon. I give full support. Everyone should support this because i am sure that we are alll sick of theese fake titles! I belive in this fourm and will follow it onewards!!
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soccerman611 is not online. soccerman611
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09 Jun 2013 07:49 PM
Support
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RoIepIay is not online. RoIepIay
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09 Jun 2013 07:54 PM
100% support.

~Your average brony, taco eater, and ROBLOXian~
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AccessibleMrStealth is not online. AccessibleMrStealth
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09 Jun 2013 08:05 PM
@GreenMasterJake

From a game player's perspective, thumbnails are useless. All they do is make a game look better than it actually is.
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GreenMasterJake is not online. GreenMasterJake
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09 Jun 2013 10:19 PM
@accessible
I think that thumbnails were meant to make a place look more professional, if we use all the other ideas you mentioned (especially number 2) then we won't need to remove thumbnails.

Here's some examples of places that use thumbnails to look professional:

http://www.roblox.com/The-Stalker-V2-44-place?id=22865026

http://www.roblox.com/Sandbox-place?id=46315274

http://www.roblox.com/Naruto-Shippuden-Online-Adventure-V1-270-Alpha-place?id=69269372

http://www.roblox.com/Call-of-Robloxia-5-Roblox-At-War-place?id=19549795
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Nikie889 is not online. Nikie889
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09 Jun 2013 10:21 PM
Interesting idea. You've got my support.

~Selfish Brat
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GreenMasterJake is not online. GreenMasterJake
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10 Jun 2013 09:53 AM
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