Dethugip
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| 05 Jun 2013 04:29 PM |
All music is a melody with backing countermelodies and harmonies. Recently, drums have been incorporated, and instrumentation has changed. Anything that isn't a melody with backing countermelodies is not music. end.
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| 05 Jun 2013 04:30 PM |
Wrongsies
Anything that is audible is music |
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| 05 Jun 2013 04:31 PM |
| if it's marketed and produced like it |
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Dethugip
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| 05 Jun 2013 04:31 PM |
no. This is not music:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AnK8ksUWqTU
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johnb
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| 05 Jun 2013 04:31 PM |
Deep, bro.
But what if the countermelody is mixed really high over the main melody, so the countermelody becomes the main melody, and so on? |
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| 05 Jun 2013 04:31 PM |
| Why isn't a subgenre of jazz music? |
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Dethugip
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| 05 Jun 2013 04:32 PM |
Jazz = classical
and john, then it's just a countermelody I guess
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johnb
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| 05 Jun 2013 04:36 PM |
| But what if that same countermelody rises in the mix and then becomes louder than the main melody, and what if, through the progression of the song, a countermelody for the countermelody—which was just the main melody—is introduced? Is this called a countercountermelody? Is it still musik? |
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| 05 Jun 2013 04:37 PM |
Not all music is classical.
Classical isn't even a genre.
Classical is a musical era. |
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Dethugip
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| 05 Jun 2013 04:39 PM |
>But what if that same countermelody rises in the mix and then becomes louder than the main melody, and what if, through the progression of the song, a countermelody for the countermelody—which was just the main melody—is introduced? Is this called a countercountermelody? Is it still musik?
at the point the countermelody becomes more significant than the main melody, it becomes the main melody.
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| 05 Jun 2013 04:42 PM |
thread of the day
~Praise the Dosh~ |
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johnb
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| 05 Jun 2013 04:42 PM |
| Yeah but what if a countermelody to the countermelody of the main melody is introduced? And what if a countermelody to the countermelody of the countermelody of the main melody is introduced? And what if a countermelody to the countermelody to the countermelody to the counter melody of the main melody is introduced, and what if the main melody becomes a countermelody to its countermelody, and what if even more countermelodies are introduced to these new countermelodies? And what happens when these countermelodies become main melodies, which then spawn more countermelodies, which then become main melodies while old main melodies become countermelodies, and what about time signatures and all that crap idk? |
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Dethugip
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| 05 Jun 2013 04:47 PM |
@johnb
If, however, that were the case, then one of two things would happen in the piece: all of the melodies would blend together in a cacophony of sound that would either sound heavily layered such as Hide & Seek by Imogen Heap, somewhat muddy, yet musically understandable like the climax of The Chain by Ingrid Michaelson. or ugly and bad musical writing like some of my uncle's "compositions"
The time signatures are dependent on the melodies themselves. You would have to give me a specific example.
...and by the way I know that you are trying to troll me at this point. My family is a family of musicians and composers, and I happen to study music theory. From this point on, unless you have a real question, you are wasting your time by typing up all of that crap.
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| 05 Jun 2013 04:49 PM |
well my family is also a family of musicians and composers and i also happen to study music theory and i can tell you that you are a noob
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johnb
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| 05 Jun 2013 04:53 PM |
If, however, that were the case, then one of two things would happen in the piece: all of the melodies would blend together in a cacophony of sound that would either sound heavily layered such as Hide & Seek by Imogen Heap, somewhat muddy, yet musically understandable like the climax of The Chain by Ingrid Michaelson. or ugly and bad musical writing like some of my uncle's "compositions" _________ Well then wouldn't it cease to become musik if it's just a cacophonous mess?
My family is a family of musicians and composers, and I happen to study music theory. From this point on, unless you have a real question, you are wasting your time by typing up all of that crap. __________ But what if there is a countermelody to a countermelody to a main melody that at some point become a countermelody and was followed by numerous other countermelodies which rose in the mix to become main melodies, all of which existing at separate points of time, of course, which then spawned countermelodies which became main melodies and then the previous main melodies became countermelodies which spawned countermelodies to the countermelodies of the main melody, which became lower in the mix and therefore became a countermelody so one of the existing countermelodies rose and become a main melody, which spawned even more countermelodies which spawned countermelodies to the countermelodies to the main melody, which spawned countermelodies to the countermelodies to the countermeldoies to the main melody, which became a countermelody so one of the countermelodies become a main melody, so now there are countermelodies to the countermelodies to the countermelodies to the countermelodies to the countermelody (singular, not plural) to the main melody, which also dropped in the mix to become a countermelody?
Bet you can't answer that, smart one. |
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Dethugip
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| 05 Jun 2013 04:54 PM |
Simple: it would just be an unrecognizable cacophony at that point, and from this point on, that will be the answer if you try to get more complex in your "questions." You lose
*sad troll is sad*
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johnb
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| 05 Jun 2013 04:55 PM |
Simple: it would just be an unrecognizable cacophony at that point, and from this point on, that will be the answer if you try to get more complex in your "questions." You lose __________ Ok, so you just said it would be cacophonous, then would it cease to be musik? |
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Dethugip
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| 05 Jun 2013 04:58 PM |
Correct. Once the melody becomes buried in cacophony, it is no longer music.
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johnb
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| 05 Jun 2013 04:59 PM |
| We have finally solved it, big ups |
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Dethugip
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| 05 Jun 2013 05:01 PM |
Bip ups to you too, my lad!
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